I want those hours back... (Can you jail someone for canon-character rape?)

Apr 21, 2009 15:23

I'm generally an easy-going person when it comes to fandom and fic, I generally only have nice things to say/positive feedback and it's all very much deserved. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the best writer (not by a long shot). But when I see Cannon-Raping as bad as it was in a story I read yesterday I want to Cry. Icon very much relevant ( Read more... )

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justthismorning April 21 2009, 20:36:23 UTC
omg, I've read so many bad stories like this, that everyone squeals over and loves, and I just shake my head in confusion and try to purge the experience from my memory. I have no idea what story you're talking about but if you want to point me in the right direction, I'd gladly give you an opinion on it.

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willow_fae_20 April 21 2009, 21:03:02 UTC
Oh BB... You are asking for it. Please to be keeping in mind that the author has pretty much completely fucked with the characters and they aren't really like this.

What you need to know:

Sentinels: People with enhanced senses (in cannon there was only one) These senses can be overwhelming if they aren't kept under control.

Guides: Only vaguely dealt with in cannon (and never like this). In cannon we are given the impression that there is someone 'attached' to the Sentinel who helps them keep their senses under control.

This story is a Cluster-Fuck of Epic proportions. But I love you for being willing to read it for me.

http://angelee-corner.tripod.com/id12.html

ILU BB, and will have brain bleach ready and waiting for whenever you give up.

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justthismorning April 22 2009, 02:39:18 UTC
OMG, I got 1/3 down the first page. How much of this did you read? Pass the brain bleach now please *grabby hands*
You are a lot braver than I am. I just can't go on. I admit defeat. *shudder*

OMG, even if the two year old child talking/acting like that didn't annoy the shit out of me, the whole face licking thing squicks me hard. And I'm not all that squickable.

Add the grammar and typo issues (huge, might I add), and the bouncing PoV, I'm surprised anyone got past the first little bit. Is this stargate?

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willow_fae_20 April 22 2009, 03:21:18 UTC
I did 27 chapters... *passes industrial strength brain bleach*

It's The Sentinel.

Yeah... I got nothing...

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queenof1000days April 22 2009, 00:53:15 UTC
I can think of a few authors in the fandoms I've been involved with that fit this. What's worse is authors who don't say the story's AU and you (the reader) are going "There's no way this isn't AU."

But I hear ya on the "WTF, this piece of garbage is winning awards?"

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willow_fae_20 April 22 2009, 00:56:09 UTC
My hand to God, I was saying to myself 3 chapters in 'I can not believe this won 2 awards. It must have been a slow/no nomination time...'

I really dislike when authors don't let you know right off the bat that their story is AU.

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queenof1000days April 22 2009, 01:08:53 UTC
Sometimes, that's the only explanation. And 3 chapters? That's like 10 types of wrong.

Me too. Or when an author has a character (or the entire cast) do something completely OOC, gets called on it by a majority of readers, and then has a big hissy fit.

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willow_fae_20 April 22 2009, 01:17:52 UTC
And 3 chapters? That's like 10 types of wrong.

Like I said, I kept hoping it would get better. And it just didn't...

As for OOC... Don't get me started... There was almost nothing of the characters from cannon in the story.

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janedavitt April 22 2009, 02:54:54 UTC
Two typos in the author notes and then all that baby talk... ::shudders:; I couldn't hack it past the first page.

There's an author in Stargate called Orrymain who writes like this with telepathic beagles, Jack and Daniel married with about 16 kids, and Jack never swears because the author doesn't like swearing. She's written hundreds of fics, won awards, has fans...although there are vast amount of readers who loathe her stories with a fiery passion too.

Canon can be twisted, but only so far.

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willow_fae_20 April 22 2009, 03:29:05 UTC
I've read a couple installments of Orrymain's fic... I still don't have any grasp of where the hell all those kids came from. The beagles are telepathic? I hadn't read that.

Jack never swears because the author doesn't like swearing.

Come on now... Seriously? A guy like Jack is going to swear. If it's not something you (as an author) do normally, suck it up and freaking deal. It's part of the character...

She's written hundreds of fics, won awards, has fans...although there are vast amount of readers who loathe her stories with a fiery passion too.

One would think the 'don't likes' would outweigh the 'likes'... I don't understand how 'author's' like these can win awards. Especially the LMFA's. Mind I don't know the nomination/voting/judging process for those, but still, there's got to be a point where someone steps in and says 'We can't accept this because of the following problems.'

Canon can be twisted, but only so far.

Too True.

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janedavitt April 22 2009, 11:49:48 UTC
I'm a committee member of the LMFA and no, that's not how they work; we don't judge the fics, we just count the votes. If a drabble was nommed for the novel category we'd move it, if a fic was nommed for a category it'd already won, it wouldn't be eligible, but that's all. We're not the people making the awards; the fandom is, by nominating and then, once a fic is on the ballot, voting for it.

And yes, I wouldn't have nommed or voted for this series myself, speaking as me, not a committee member, but mileage varies; it's the one constant.

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anonymous April 22 2009, 03:15:20 UTC
1.LMF awards are not indicative of quality. I call it LMF Recs myself.

2.Nomination and winning are indicative of the quantity of friends and readers the author has, and the opinions of said friends and readers.

3.Many, many of the best stories never won any awards.

4.I've read much worse in TS. Thinly veiled torture/pedo fantasies. Ludicrous, purple prose, grand operas of AUs. Trust me, you don't want to know, I didn't want to know.

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willow_fae_20 April 22 2009, 03:32:44 UTC
2.Nomination and winning are indicative of the quantity of friends and readers the author has, and the opinions of said friends and readers.

So much like everywhere else it's not what you know (cannon/grammar wise) it's who you know/how many.

Thank you. That actually explains a lot. Especially WRT this particular story winning 2 awards.

4.I've read much worse in TS. Thinly veiled torture/pedo fantasies. Ludicrous, purple prose, grand operas of AUs. Trust me, you don't want to know, I didn't want to know.

I'm actually kind of curious...

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anonymous April 22 2009, 07:12:08 UTC
4. Shudders, no. Isn't there enough misery in the world?
Besides it's a matter of opinion, I might think it's crap but someone else probably thinks it's Tolstoy :) hence the "award".

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