Doggy trouble in the Holy Land

Jan 15, 2007 22:08

"Others had called and just barked into the phone, laughing and shouting: "I'm Charlie, come and get me."

Some journalists living in Jerusalem's Abu Tor mixed Jewish-Arab neighborhood lost their dog, Charlie ( Read more... )

israel, palestine, palestinians, arabs, jerusalem, peace, dogs, jews

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madali January 15 2007, 19:28:00 UTC
See, its easy to simplify matters, and basically say, "why cant they just get aalong? :( :(", but the situation is really much more complex than that. Mutual distaste will slowly fade away once the political situation is resolved. Until then, most hate, from both side, is understood, and frankly, in a lot of situation, justified.

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wicked_danu January 15 2007, 19:43:06 UTC
It's easy to say it and do it, if only the leaders stop mongering hate by the dozen. It's all their propaganda that's done the damage. They can't take their words back and they won't talk peace, so the only option left is for the people to make peace among themselves.

I don't understand the hate. I don't think it's justified at all. Suicide bombings are not justified. Killing over a thousand civlians for a couple of soldiers is not justified. Taking a human life is never justified, no matter how much of a monster you think the person is.

"Once the political situation is resolved."
Not much chance of that happening soon.

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madali January 15 2007, 19:59:05 UTC
We're not talking about things like physical attacks, but the distate that comes from "moderates", not the fundementalists. The fundementalists are fucked up anyway, no use arguing them.

But if the average Arab or Jew does not like or trust the other person, then how is that surprising?

Leaders are made of people, and voted in the office by the people for both states. Neither are a dictatorship. Israel's politicians are voted in by the office, and Palestanian politicians the same. Most of the leader's actions are defined by the desires of the people.

The Israel/Palestine situation is extremely complicated, because of clash of religions, clash of cultures (remember, Israeli Jews are not middle eastern culture, but heavily influenced by western culture), and most importantly, meddling and interests of other parties. The situation CAN be resolved, and a huge step will be taken in the right direction, once we get a creation of a two-state nation.

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wicked_danu January 16 2007, 06:43:06 UTC
It's a little surprising to me because these people just refuse to stop bickering over their differences. Because it's not human nature to do that, or at least I believe so.
Sometimes, the two sides work WITH each other or for the other one's benefit [like when the parents of a Palestinian child killed by Israeli soldiers donated his organs to an Israeli hospital, saying that "Israeli children are like our children."] - amazingly, that's what people find surprising!

Of course, I'm not denying that the situation is complicated, it's not simple at all because it's not just about the religion of the residents of the region. The creation of a two-state nation seems like a lost cause right now. Personally, I would vote for a bi-national state that allows both Jews and Arabs to share the land, so nobody gets full control of it.. but neither am I a Palestinian Arab nor a Jew, so I have no say in it.

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pebbles_patio January 15 2007, 20:30:45 UTC
Poor Charlie! Perhaps he ran away becuz he couldn't stand all the constant bickering.

xoxo,
pebs

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wicked_danu January 16 2007, 06:48:23 UTC
Yes, all those damn journalists are known to bitchslap each other a lot.

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mdb_uk January 15 2007, 22:09:59 UTC
In the end though, Charlie wasn't found and the folks got a new dog.

:O

That's horrible! "oh well, he's not coming back, let's get a new one"! If my Charlie ran away I wouldn't want a new one!

Dumb Jewarabs...

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wicked_danu January 16 2007, 07:06:08 UTC
Oh come on, now.. I mean, they did try looking for their dog so much. They went to the "pound" and everything.

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mdb_uk January 16 2007, 09:17:08 UTC
Hmm... you didn't say that, it sounded like they gave up and just replaced him... still, I'm not sure I'd want to replace Charlie for months after he ran away =(

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wicked_danu January 16 2007, 12:48:46 UTC
I'm sure you wouldn't :)

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areyoupraying January 15 2007, 22:38:32 UTC
Just tell me... How is it funny?

Ever owned a pet?

How can such be a funny example, too?

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wicked_danu January 16 2007, 07:11:27 UTC
It just is funny. Maybe not to you, but it was funny to me. I laughed at the part where people called in and barked into the phone.

Yes, I've owned pets.

What funny example are you talking about?

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areyoupraying January 15 2007, 23:27:48 UTC
Áwwwwww I love that.

I love donkeys.

That's all I can say.

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areyoupraying January 15 2007, 23:34:11 UTC
Okay.

I've just been on the site for ten minutes, and it's making me weep.

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