So, it appears...

[farseer_lolotea]

...that another installment of that series is up.  The hunter segment, specifically (she's going alphabetical).

This time, it looks like people almost immediately started telling her exactly how Suetiful her example characters are.  I'm not sure whether or not she got the point.

And then, there's this discussion, where someone is actually

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[rabidfangirlism]

hey, i like the dragonlance books. there's better then the drizzt books out there, but they're not the worst things ever.

[farseer_lolotea]

I think I liked some of the earlier Drizzt books, but that was about it.

As for Dragonlance...ehh.  I wasn't too impressed with the writing (at least on the main saga) I'm not too impressed with the setting itself, and there are kender.

[farseer_lolotea]

Yeah, I was a kid when I was reading all the D&D tie-ins.  I think that I was beginning to get sick of stereotypical classic fantasy even at that point.

[dodgy_mermaid]

Awwww. I like the first six Drizzt novels, or so, and I enjoy some of Dragonlance -- mostly the stories focusing on the Majere twins or Tasselhoff Burrfoot; I didn't find much else particularly memorable. I also like George Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire, though, which has saved my ass among scorners of Salvatore, Weis, and Hickman....

Once, though, I tried to read some of the Warcraft novels, and could not stand whatever it was I picked up.

[farseer_lolotea]

I think most of the Warcraft tie-in novels are Knaak.  He sucks.  Keith DeCandido (Cycle of Hatred) is even worse.  Aaron Rosenberg (Tides of Darkness, co-author of Beyond the Dark Portal) is okay; Christie Golden is actually good.

See above for my opinions on the Drizzt books and Dragonlance.  ASoIAF is pretty good (although I've lost some respect for Martin for jumping on the anti-fanfic bandwagon).

[dodgy_mermaid]

I lost some respect for Martin after following his LiveJournal for a few months! I had no idea about his stance on fanfiction, though...but I haven't really been interested in that stuff since about 1998.

Y'know, I am glad of your warning about Knaak; now I will be cautious in my approach of his DL novel, Kaz the Minotaur. Knew I had seen his name somewhere before; I vaguely remember enjoying The Legend of Huma....

I will check out Christie Golden and Aaron Rosenberg, though; thank you.

I was not very impressed with the writing in most of Dragonlance; a lot of it (and, come to think of it, parts of the Drizzt novels) made me wince. I have encountered such hate for those authors, recently...and I just don't think Salvatore or Weis/Hickman are that bad! I find their work quite enjoyable, if not always amazing. There are better authors to despise, like...Terry Goodkind or Elaine Cunningham.... *grumbles*

[farseer_lolotea]

What's the issue with Cunningham?  I read one of her books, way back when, and had no real opinion on it.  (The main character, IIRC, was somewhat Suetiful, but less so, IMO, than...quite a few that I could name.)

[deadborder]

From a purely mechanical viewpoint, RAK Is better then Rosenberg. RAK is rather good with his prose and description, whereas Rosenberg seems to live on short, clipped sentances and rather abrupt chapters. Rosenberg's books have shockingly little meat, and seem to be morel ike outlines and plot summaries then actual fully fleshed-out books. Dark Portal only seemed differnt becuse of Golden's contributions.

That being said, he still sucks at creating likeable chracters, cant string together a decent story and is far too in love with the word "orb"

[farseer_lolotea]

This guy called Rosenberg "amateurish," (which I won't entirely deny), but otherwise, it wasn't about mechanics.  He said that Rosenberg "had little to no grasp of Warcraft lore" and lacked character development, then went on to laud Knaak's work as "very engaging."

While I tore through Tides of Darkness in under an hour and pronounced it "lightweight," I found myself able-as I state on that thread-to at least give a damn about the characters.  I couldn't say the same of either Day of the Dragon or Night of the Dragon.

[kosmos_eve]

When I read Day of the Dragon I liked the characters. Night of the Dragon, I pretty much cared about the Dwarves more than the rest of them.

Tides of Darkness did feel clipped.

[farseer_lolotea]

Plus, every one of her character examples has been at least somewhat sparklypoo.  Someone ratted us out to her; she dismissed us as a bunch of Stop Having Funs.

Then, when people openly called her characters out for being sparklypoo, she seemed completely mystified.

[kalifla]

Saddest thing about that is how frequently I've seen us (well, me, and people who seem like-minded about this whole rp bidness) called griefers and Stop Having Fun U Guiz when we're trying to convince other IC people around us to let us have fun.

cuz if you aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong.

[hunter_by_trade]

I dunno, I rather enjoy some of the Warcraft novels (specifically, The Last Guardian, Lord of the Clans, and Rise of the Horde). Perhaps I'm just not very good at critiquing writing unless it's badness is so utterly blatant that you'd have to be blind to not notice it.

Or maybe it's just because I've only read them all once so far and haven't really bothered to dig into them and really tear them apart yet.

I'm a very indecisive person, I find. ._.

[farseer_lolotea]

I haven't read The Last Guardian (looking for a copy; local Borders is fail) but I liked the other two.

[hunter_by_trade]

Yeah, The Last Guardian was hard for me to find, too. I'm surprised I managed to get my hands on it at all.