De mortuis -- veritas. Ньютон, Дарвин, ... Хоокинг?? (Upd наутро ради PS)

Apr 02, 2018 09:38

Хоокинга, сообщают, похоронили рядом с Ньютоном и Дарвином.

Наденем-ка резиновую перчатку.

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По масштабу научных деяний он, конечно, с Исааком Исааковичем и Чарльзом Робертовичем рядом не сидел ( Read more... )

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pbi20 April 1 2018, 15:43:01 UTC
Well, we have discussed it already - imho, his radiation has a bit different status from what may be classified as 'phantasm', since no any additional entities are invoked in this effect. Also, as someone has mentioned here there are experimentally found analogs in e.g. condensed matter physics as far as I am aware of. And concerning the global theorems and similar stuff - I would praise it perhaps even more than the Hawking radiation, since it is a really powerful and elegant stuff. It is true of course that the global theorem are proved by a number of people (funny enough, following your own Second Principle you've mentioned only R. Penrose due to his public fame, but there are others, e.g. R. Geroch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Geroch and B. Carter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Carter, the latter one is, by the way, a formennii dolbanyshka :)) who played a role in ( ... )

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vteninn April 1 2018, 16:22:58 UTC
Не вижу противоречий с содержанием записи кроме единственного пункта: гипотеза об излучении -- это всё-таки фантазм, даже если конкретный фантазм там прикрыт формулками. Тут я буду stick to my guns.

Досада, однако, в том, что пузырь, раздуваемый журналистами (научпопами-вредителями), всё-таки в условиях ВТОРОГО НАЧАЛА заметно влияет на оценки в наукоценозе, особенно если отойти подальше, чем на 100 м.

А чего, кстати, жалеть? Все мы смертны.
Ему вообще обещали пару лет, а он ещё сорок прожил -- радоваться надо ))

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pbi20 April 1 2018, 16:45:14 UTC
He had around 55 years more than predicted.. I didn't know him personally, only had met on several
occasions, but some people I know were his friends or even collaborators, naturally, for at least
some of them this could be a personal loss regardless of how many years he'd managed to survive..

Sure, no doubt, I agree that his public image is quite different from the professional one,
but I personally won't exchange good health conditions to what he had..

Anyhow, let's postpone the rest to a later time, have to work, there are some ongoing troubles with
a project..

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vteninn April 1 2018, 16:54:42 UTC
А, 55 лет. Тем более.

Удачи с проектом.

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