Mathemolitics

[virtuistic]

There is a presidential election looming on the far horizon. Bearing that in mind, I have sound political reasoning that will help ease your decision by removing a contender.

Do NOT Vote for Hillary Clinton.
This is not about my distrust of her sincerity. Nor is it really even about her downward-spiraling campaign1. It's about mathI know, I know

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[secondstar]

oooooo
that is true
*ponders*

[virtuistic]

It's weird that no media outlet has really capitalized on how weird it is.

Also, you TOTALLY freaked me out with the new lj name. I like it though, and ace on the layout, as always.

[wonky]

What will you do if Clinton wins the nomination? I'd never vote for any of the Republicans running and although Hillary isn't my first choice I'd still vote for her over all of them. I also think the idea of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton is amusing...if it does happen. I don't want it to but if it did I'd be like "LOL."

[virtuistic]

It honestly depends on who the other candidate is. I do not trust Clinton farther than I can throw her. I think she has no backbone, and I don't think she herself has a stance on anything. I think she just wants the office, and will do whatever it takes to get there. I will not vote for her.

I would vote for Huckabee, I think. I need to do some more research into him, but he's not so Neo-Republican as the other candidates.

However, if no suitable candidate can be found, I will abstain from voting. After all, in the words of Albert Einstien regarding the philisophy and life of Ghandi: "We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation in anything you believe is evil."

[wonky]

Oh fuck, if Huckabee won I would leave the country. I've said to my mom that if he wins I'll go to college out of the country and just go into debt up to my eyeballs as long as a university with accept me. I hate Huckabee and he's one of those super religious people that would dictate what happens because of their religion. Also, he signed some statement that said something like "women belong at home supporting the man of the house". Not those words exactly but along those lines and I am not okay with that.

[virtuistic]

That is not even remotely true. Unless you can site that to me, I would chalk that up to radical political propaganda.

I have heard him speak (radio interviews and the like), and I've heard him defend himself against allegations like that. I'm no bible-thumping, gun-toting republican, but he has some good stances and is pretty sane compared to the rest of the characters on the field, both democratic and republican.

[virtuistic]

We have, I believe, an oligarchy. Literal translation being: government by the few.

I do like Obama. And I think, now that he's got Oprah on his side he could really have a shot. I'm hopeful. I think he is a breath of fresh air.

And in response to your other question, yes and no. I went to the hospital, as you know, and got the 'roids. Now my heart is freaking its shit out though. At work today there were a few times where I had to just put my head down and breath because it was racing so fast. My heartbeat is naturally very low and it was around 90-110 all day. So... if it does it again tomorrow I'll be going back to the doctor. :(

[extremetapir]

Actually, the whole Oprah thing turned me away from Obama for a brief period

[virtuistic]

Yeah, I definitely don't like that most Americans are sheep, but there's nothing we can do to change that. If Oprah hadn't given her support, they just would've latched onto whoever their friends or family were voting for and follow the herd.

I, like you, wish everyone in this country gave half a crap and would take the time to do some research one week and just think things through for themselves. We both know the likelihood of that happening are next to nil. Most Americans get their political insight from biased sources, and they seek out those sources so they don't have to hear things that challenge their views. It's a problem, but I think Oprah, in all her ridiculous, car-dropping benevolence, is genuine in her support of Obama. She can't help that she's Oprah. No, she doesn't have to throw the entire weight of her media empire behind him, but she is. I think, as a member of the Obama camp, it's helpful even if it isn't ideal.

[_candynsweets]

Why not give a person a benefit of the doubt? People are not copies of each others. They are unique individuals. They have their own thoughts and their own original ideas.

[virtuistic]

I think history has proven that giving the benefit of the doubt doesn't work too well when you're dealing with the President of the United States.

[greyduck]

This here is the truest sentence I've read all year.

[virtuistic]

I am honored. ^,^

[mattador]

That's an interesting point, and one I'd certainly give a lot of thought to.

Huckabee sounded palatable up until the whole bit where he thinks all AIDS victims should be put under quarantine- yeah, he made the statement 15 years ago, but when asked again he said he would not back down from that statement. Otherwise, he'd be edging out McCain in my decent-Republican slot, but that was sort of a make or break statement for me, and he broke.

[virtuistic]

Yeah, that is particularly shitty. I don't think we need any modern day leper colonies out there.

There are a few things about him that I really don't like. I don't like his stance on gay marriage, and I really don't like that he wants to overturn Rowe vs. Wade... but I don't think he'd be able to ban either. I just don't think Congress or the Senate would stand for that shit, so it's *kind of* moot?

Plus, Huckabee is Chuck Norris approved. I don't know if you've seen that ad, but it is staggering.

But... it's better than blimp boy or Rudy I-can-say-911-at-least-138,049-times-before-you-can-blink. I confess I haven't really given McCain much thought. Hm.

[mattador]

I agree that he is less repulsive than most of the field of conservative candidates, but that's saying very little. What makes me like McCain is that he has constantly called the Republican party and Bush in particular every time their views stray from what the Republican party is supposed to stand for- which is, well, often. He has backed down, but only when the Reps would have tossed him out if he hadn't, so I think he has more integrity and principles than any other politician I know. Which is perhaps not saying much- and I still disagree with him on a lot- but it's nice to know that he feels a sense of accountability and responsibility about his position.

[virtuistic]

I can groove with that. I think McCain is kind of the bellwether for the old-school Reps out there. You know, the ones that aren't leaping off the far end of the political spectrum, trying to fly on the wings of twisted scripture and piles of personal wealth.

But I definitely think the candidate with the most integrity and principles in this election is Obama. I think he's young enough that he hasn't had his soul crushed out of him, and he hasn't completely sold out to lobbyists. He has actually worked in communities for the good of people other than himself, and he wants to reform politicians to make them all be accountable.