Comments | veleda: On the Waters of Hod extended to language.

veleda

On the Waters of Hod extended to language.

Jan 19, 2009 14:19

No one means all he says, and yet very few say all they mean, for words are slippery and thought is viscous. ~Henry Brooks Adams, The Education of Henry Adams, 1907Just something I'm contemplating today. Most of my work in the past with Hod as Water has been based on work with my own mind and self-reflection. For some odd reason, I've not really ( Read more... )

dominusliminis, relationships, hod, mercury, language, hermes

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Can't resist jonathankorman January 19 2009, 22:41:22 UTC

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Re: Can't resist veleda January 20 2009, 08:26:10 UTC

always loved suzanne vega.

thank you for sharing.

quincidence January 19 2009, 22:56:07 UTC

This is difficult, but simple at the same time.
We spend the first 8-9 months in water... that is the communication medium for all things... so first communication is a heartbeat, through water...
to me water is what we are, but yet, we are more, and yet we are less pure than water.
so for communication and water... it seems that flow is important, containment or freedom are issues, and measurement of quality are essential as well and avoidance of contaminants for vital life giving water/communication.

Also this made me think I should cross post this to my journal... hope you don't mind but it made me think...

drjon January 19 2009, 23:02:40 UTC

If you get either of them on paper, it ruins the paper.

veleda January 20 2009, 08:26:31 UTC

HAHA.

(more of an aspiration than an everyday reality, for me) alobar January 19 2009, 23:30:11 UTC

http://alobar.livejournal.com/3206119.html

Whirling around with Viktor Schauberger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4eVLgvvOSI

anaisdjuna January 20 2009, 00:03:52 UTC

Oh I definitely mean what I say. That's dichotomy has been a huge, huge matter in my world in the past few months. I got very hurt by some bs talking that I interpreted as real and some that I have a hard time as seeing as not real. I can't imagine not meaning what you say. Why would you say it? What a waste of time to say things you don't mean. WTF? What's it for? How can you have pride if your words don't mean stuff? I mean pride in the honor sense... How can anyone understand you? How can anyone negotiate things between themselves and others? Where are the footholds and the steps? Where are the foundations to build and rest and dream?

whimsywanderer January 20 2009, 03:36:47 UTC

I think the quote means something different than you seem to take it to mean, and this illustrates the point it attempts to convey very well.

The notion is that thoughts are fluid, not concrete. And words are concrete, not fluid. To describe something fluid in concrete terms, some estimation, approximation, generalization and oversimplification occurs. In this, much meaning is lost, and much meaning is subtly distorted.

Add to this the general vagary of words themselves, and the insufficiency of the mind to come up with all the right words at the right times while feeling a need to express -something-, and you start to get a picture of the meaning of the quote.

anaisdjuna January 20 2009, 03:58:05 UTC

Hmm.... I guess my thoughts are pretty concrete or I categorize them as theories and pre-face their disclosure with the idea that there are likely to be at least 17. I choose my words very, very carefully. I think before I speak and make sure I say what I mean and finish by fixing my actions to mean what I say.

You explain the quote beautifully though.

I've often wished I had a lot of mouths to speak simultaneously so as to not falsely ascribe priority or importance by the accident of linear speech.