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megamuphen September 16 2009, 15:28:35 UTC
I take medication and would give it to my hypothetical children.

I use vegan condoms as birth control.

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seattleotaku September 16 2009, 15:55:44 UTC
Abstinence has arguably lower potential failure rate, too, for both the pregnancy control and potential disease control angles. :)

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_melodic_ September 16 2009, 16:11:24 UTC
But then you can't have sex, so....

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laceyslostlove September 16 2009, 16:34:00 UTC
hahahaha right!

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howlinghorse September 16 2009, 16:26:55 UTC
As well as the cruelty involved in making it medication is a luxury we won't necessarily be able to have forever, because manufacturing it takes a lot of energy. thinking ahead, I think we should be looking at alternative cures and preventative measures we can all take asap. I've never yet taken a pharmaceutical and hopefully I won't ever need to. When I've had a fever or cough or headache I've always taken herbs and felt better. Veganism seems to prevent a lot of those congestion diseases too, and keeping fit by walking or cycling rather than driving everywhere. To sum up, I'd never have pharmaceuticals unless it was an urgent situation where it would definitely save my life and I doubt I'd have a choice then, anyway!

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mamabyrd September 16 2009, 16:42:38 UTC
Never? Any? Not even an aspirin? Wow, you're neat!:)

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howlinghorse September 17 2009, 19:48:47 UTC
No, never! lucky me ;)

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bitspike September 16 2009, 22:37:14 UTC
+1!

If we did away with the need for creating so many new products we'd drastically reduce the amount of testing involved!

I've used medication in my life, but not for a long time now. I don't see it as necessary except for extreme cases. There is usually some 'natural' way which helps just as well - if not better, as you don't have the nasty side-effects!

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laceyslostlove September 16 2009, 16:30:21 UTC
birth control is completely different from a lifesaving medication. i would take a life-saving medication (especially for diabetes, cancer, or any autoimmune disease) that was tested on animals but something i don't need? no freaking way.

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kcanadensis September 16 2009, 16:45:45 UTC
>birth control is completely different from a lifesaving medication

Just want to point out it's not always just taken as a contraceptive. It's used to treat other things too, which is why I used to take it.

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laceyslostlove September 16 2009, 16:50:02 UTC
I'm aware that there are other conditions for birth control; i had a physician try to put me on it once for acne; but to my knowledge birth control does not treat any life-threatening condition. if having a child will kill you; there are other, permanent solutions to that problem.

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_melodic_ September 16 2009, 16:57:17 UTC
Sometimes, and often and as it was in my case, it is used to regulate one's menstrual cycle. Before I was put on it I would get heavy bleeding for three weeks in a row sometimes and it made me severely anemic and was quite dangerous and thus I needed to be put on birth control so that I wasn't in and out of the hospital with cramps that made me vomit continuously and pass out and due to loss of blood (haha kinda gross I know) but I know that the birth control definitely helped with all those symptoms.

But don't get me wrong, I do agree with you that any medicine that is not lifesaving or necessary should be omitted and other alternatives should be explored and often birth control is used for prevention of getting pregnant and acne, ect.

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... weeona September 16 2009, 18:17:37 UTC
I don't take meds for stuff like colds/pains/etc.
If it was life threatening, I'd take medicines to prevent my death.

I did take BC as I'm childfree and children are NOT an option.
However, I became increasingly uncomfortable with that and had myself sterilized last year, instead. I figured some anesthesia and a couple pain pills this one time were causing MUCH less harm than something I'd be taking for life. So, no more non-vegan BC and a much happier, sterile me. :)

My companion animals get medicine for when they are ill/need surgeries.
They are my 'kids' and it'd be absolute animal cruelty to withhold vital medicine that could save their lives. Especially with rats medication is necessary - they go downhill very quickly and can die from things very rapidly.

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Re: ... sunlit_window September 16 2009, 22:56:51 UTC
OT

hey...i've looked into sterilization (childfree as well) but when i had insurance, my gyno said i was too young. now that i don't have insurance, its not an option, and i think i'm still too young (24 now). Where did you find a gyno cool enough to go through with this???

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arcanefairy September 16 2009, 20:35:00 UTC
Would you forgo taking medications because they were tested on animals? Even if these medicines were to treat some potentially fatal or otherwise life afflicting problem?
why or why not?

I weigh it on a case by case basis. I once took Effexor and frankly that kept me alive. I may not need a cough medication for every sniffle though. When I do take medication I try to get the generic version as in Canada generic versions generally aren't tested on animals (they can be, but its more cost effective not too, and as a corporation why do your own tests when you only need to prove its effectiveness with human subjects?).

How about if the medication was for your kid?I'm iffy about child medications anyways. Nothing for sniffles and coughs. Yes they feel horrible but it just turns them into zombies that parents send to daycare anyways where they feel horrible all day and all they want is their parents to make them feel better (sorry I'm a bitter daycare worker). If it was serious or life treatening I would do what it takes to make my child ( ... )

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