Food Chain Argument

May 07, 2008 18:51


My fiance doesn't agree or disagree with a lot of things. He is always in between on issues. An independent in politics. So basically while he does support my veganism, he still always questions. Which is good to have an open mind, but it is also good to develop your own beliefs as I have (And I still have an open mind). He is at least being mostly ( Read more... )

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uppity_heathen May 7 2008, 23:49:36 UTC
First of all, how do you "humanely" murder a living being? And I can't see how it could ever be seen as "natural" to drink the milk of another species since other animals don't do that ( ... )

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heathergalaxy May 8 2008, 00:24:02 UTC
Well humans have developed in such a way that we have moral reasoning and can decide right from wrong. Animals do not have this and therefore aren't aware that killing is wrong.

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edgiko May 8 2008, 00:54:00 UTC
Civilized humans don't have a thing for following natures rules. Animals consume, yes, but we destroy. Everything to animals, habits and other humans beings (especially those uncivilized humans).

There is nothing we do that is a part of the natural order minus dying.

Also, the only thing that makes us "higher on the food chain" is our willingness to destroy our planet while sticking our heads in the sand about it.

..That came off more misanthropic than I intended it to be. XD

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edgiko May 8 2008, 00:59:30 UTC
Basically what I'm trying to say is I hate this argument because we can only claim we're higher because of our technology and our ability to "tame the land." Dolphins are about as brainy as we are yet you don't see them doing the things we do.

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aprilstarchild May 8 2008, 00:57:44 UTC
1. For instance: Lions, yes? They eat other animals. The males will also eat the baby lions in their pride if they're not the father. In addition, they start chomping down before the animal is truly dead. Which is another way of saying, I don't take non-human animals as my ethical role models. Some species rape, some commit infanticide, some are cannibalistic...etc. I fully advocate leaving them to behave as they naturally do, but I don't emulate them.

2. As a person in a "first-world" country who isn't dependent on the charity of others for my food, I can live a healthy happy life without killing animals for food. Why kill when I don't need to?

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Also edgiko May 8 2008, 03:56:48 UTC
I'm finding it funny everyone is bring up the whole "killing their own young" and "rape" thing when we also kill our own young and rape our women.

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Re: Also vgnwtch May 8 2008, 07:52:11 UTC
And rape our men, too. Not as frequent, perhaps, but it does happen.

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Re: Also fetishangel May 8 2008, 15:35:29 UTC
I rape my boyfriend every night.

But he totally asks for it, so it's not rape I guess :)

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Re: Also vgnwtch May 8 2008, 16:50:36 UTC
Nope, you'll have to change your definition of forced, unwanted sex. You're going to have to keep practising with the man until you've worked out what category your activities fall under ;)

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