-010- [voice] usual spoiler warning

Jun 06, 2011 16:43

[As this entry opens, there's several seconds of faint birdsong in the background. A good indicator that Vanitas is outside somewhere. Why not? It's finally overcast and not so glaringly hot, today.

Just when it might seem the journal was clicked on accidentally, a voice finally speaks up, cool and even as always.] Once upon a time, there ( Read more... )

ventus=zombie, xion=frankenstein, needling, roxas=ghost, open discussion, vanitas=vampire, fishing for info, story time!

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also forward-dated to the 7th hisdarkmark June 7 2011, 03:10:39 UTC
Fate is irreversible. Free will is what you can accomplish by any means necessary by using anyone necessary.

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vanityunbcoming June 7 2011, 04:03:57 UTC
Accomplish what, though? If your fate's irreversible, does it even matter or are you struggling uselessly?

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hisdarkmark June 7 2011, 05:27:36 UTC
I believe with enough free will at hand, you can change fate. [He's still under the firm belief that he's in Luceti because he ran hard and fast enough from the Astronomy tower that night at Hogwarts.]

Why are you asking?

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vanityunbcoming June 7 2011, 15:20:22 UTC
And you don't think it would end badly for anyone that tried?

[If a shrug could translate over voice, one would go here.] I just wanna know.

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magicrevelation June 7 2011, 17:23:36 UTC
This is rather controversial topic but I'll tell you my thoughts. I think fate is just an excuse for people to be lazy. If you always assume that the outcome is inevitable then you aren't really relying on your own strength.

That's laziness.

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vanityunbcoming June 9 2011, 19:48:27 UTC
If it was an easy question, I wouldn't have asked.

And I agree with you. But on the other hand, I'm curious to know how you'd explain multiple coincidences. Is that just chalked up to chance, too?

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magicrevelation June 10 2011, 03:27:54 UTC
Good point.

Multiple coincidences? Do you mind giving an example?

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vanityunbcoming June 11 2011, 23:56:40 UTC
I'll use something simple. Say there's two people with similar names, but they live their entire lives without knowing each other.

But they both share a birthday, fall into similar work, and die on the same day.

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todistantskies June 8 2011, 01:03:19 UTC
Fate... It's like a basic path people follow, and free will is how they take that path--or try to deviate from it. [ Dismissively: ] Something like that. It's whatever you want it to be, I guess.

What's this have to do with your story?

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vanityunbcoming June 9 2011, 19:49:57 UTC
Doesn't sound like a very sincere response. Are you sure you believe that, or are you just repeating what you've heard?

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todistantskies June 10 2011, 06:01:02 UTC
Since I don't really want to believe in Fate, the latter would be a good guess. It's complicated, though; some things have to be fate because they shouldn't have happened purely by free will.

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vanityunbcoming June 12 2011, 00:01:41 UTC
In other words, you do believe in fate, but choose to ignore it.

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risingwinds June 8 2011, 01:17:27 UTC
[He's listened to some of the comments. Needless to say, Ven's a little suspicious.

It doesn't help that he's really tired by the time he responds.]

What's all this about?

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vanityunbcoming June 9 2011, 19:51:37 UTC
Nothing much. [A slight pause.] How was your trip?

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risingwinds June 9 2011, 23:40:37 UTC
Exhausting. It was really hard on everybody.

[He's not going into too much detail, mainly because this is Vanitas.]

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vanityunbcoming June 10 2011, 01:31:24 UTC
You seem to have made it out in one piece.

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automoblephilia June 8 2011, 22:13:30 UTC
Free will. I'd say you'd be getting the better end of the stick with that option. More...open for doing your own thing.

Fate, Free will. Seems like they're both just created to blame stuff on other people. Fate because you can't change it, have to do what's in the design. Free will because you have a chance to do whatever you want but the whole freedom thing goes to your head. So you blame it on people who make an impression on you when you do the wrong thing.

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vanityunbcoming June 9 2011, 19:54:47 UTC
[For a moment, there's silence aside from that faint birdsong again, while Vanitas thinks about this answer.] Then what would be the real force behind it all?

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automoblephilia June 10 2011, 04:42:48 UTC
Suppose ineffability really. [ Ngk. ]

Can't really say for sure. But a lot of people sure do like to think it's their own choices that's the driving force.

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vanityunbcoming June 12 2011, 00:08:47 UTC
Seems to me like the opinion's split down the middle. Actually, I think the fate side's winning.

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