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[un_forgetting]

...[Naoya's staring at the dreamberry, clearly agitated. He drums his fingers on a table, scowls for a moment, and then--]

There is no forgiveness. I don't need it. I don't need it. I never...

[He pulls it together, and smirks at the screen for a moment, before speaking in a bored tone.]All cultures have different views on the severity of

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[silence_ikillu]

I do not see anything wrong with the killing... as long as they are infidels...

[un_forgetting]

...[What the hell.]

...The hell are you?

[silence_ikillu]

I am a terrorist.

[un_forgetting]

You are a disgrace to logic.

[gotnyxed]

War is still killing. I mean...someone's life ends because of it.

I don't pretend to understand the Old Testament at all, but...religion has never been an easy topic. Especially when it's mixed with politics.

But I think that if you go out of your way to kill someone, just for the fun of it, that's when it becomes unforgivable. You're extinguishing life not because of orders, or to defend your own life...but just out of curiosity. Or for the thrill of it.

[un_forgetting]

...[There's silence for a while.]

What about a single moment of rage?

[gotnyxed]

Rage is a powerful motivator, that's true, but...it depends on what prompted it.

*quiet* ...why are you asking about this, anyway?

[un_forgetting]

I have no intention of answering that. [:<]

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[lookatmybadge]

Throughout history, war has always been a tool for development. I don't agree with it, but sometimes it's necessary to further things along and to force those who are too stubborn to let go of their pride to admit defeat for a better world. Though, ironically, it would probably be a better world without any war at all

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[un_forgetting]

Why is war necessary for development? Is it simply human nature, or out of greed? War over land, power, resources, a perceived insult...it is rarely for humanitarian reason. You contradict yourself in your own reasoning.

Murder was not...it does not have to be out of entirely selfish means. All it takes is a single moment of rage. Humans are surprisingly fragile creatures.

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[lookatmybadge]

Of course it is. For countries that are at a standstill, both as stubborn as each other in regards to changing their ways or admitting to faults, something has be done or nothing will. If every country shared its wealth and people stopped being greedy, there wouldn't be a need for war-- but it probably wouldn't stop. People will always be willing to fight over something if they believe in it enough.

You're asking about the people involved within the wars who fight for a cause, not the people who cause any wars.

No, it doesn't. Murder, war-- it's all a case by case basis. I told you what I thought using the information you gave me.

Ultimately, it all comes down to choice and free will. You either choose to murder someone, or you don't-- whether you're blinded by emotion or not.

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[un_forgetting]

Then what use is 'justice'? Besides, the question is the measure of forgiveness...

[travelingdoctor]

War is...

Do you think the rules change, when it's "kill or be killed"?

[un_forgetting]

I don't. But there's a long history of wars being started over entirely selfish means. Where does that leave the high command, who are safe from the battlefield themselves?

[travelingdoctor]

Not all wars are started for selfish reasons. Some wars have to happen, to stop people who will only hurt others. ...But all war is hell.

[un_forgetting]

I'm not saying the circumstances matter. But while people still argue that war can be justified, no one ever argues that murder can.

Killing is still killing. The question is, at what measure is something, in this case, 'murder', unforgivable?

[scientize]

[Harshly. She may not like violence, but war has always been a constant presence in her life and something that was important to her family.]

It isn`t a matter of morals. It`s a matter of genetics.

[un_forgetting]

Hardly. Murder's been around long before people started mucking about with their own bloodlines. Evolution doesn't take a course to support this sort of massive blood-letting, that'd be counter-productive.

[scientize]

I don`t mean manufactured genetics. From the moment of conception, your entire life has been planned out for you by the very DNA that makes up your body.

Soldiers have no choice but to fight and draw blood. It`s in their genes. They will always be predispositioned towards violence. It`s a scientific fact. It has nothing to do with God.

[un_forgetting]

Bullshit. [He laughs, shaking his head.]

Don't blame fate on your genes. Both things can be defied. There is always a choice, if not always a good one. That is the very meaning of free will.