that it should come to this...

Jan 14, 2010 15:58

According to MARCA, Real Madrid have processed an appeal to declare Rubén de la Red disabled ( Read more... )

.football, team: real madrid, player: raúl, player: casillas, player: guti, player: de la red

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txorakeriak January 14 2010, 20:00:09 UTC
I know, it's so sad. :(

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angualupin January 14 2010, 16:15:07 UTC
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not. Perez is a cheap bastard who's spent too much money on the wrong things and must be desperate to cut corners. It's especially appalling considering that de la Red is an academy product, though.

I'm glad to hear that his teammates are standing behind him. Hopefully things will work out in his favour -- although considering what has happened previously when players have taken their clubs to court, I'm not holding my breath. Spain does not have good employment laws.

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txorakeriak January 14 2010, 20:02:54 UTC
It seems it's not even the fault of Real's management, it's (as you said) Spain's employment laws that are to blame for this. I don't know much about them, but I figured that you can only be "ill" (meaning temporarily away from work) for a certain period and then you'll have to get examined again and if they say it's not certain you'll be able to work again in the next 18 months or something, you'll have to be declared an invalid. In Rubén's case, that would mean he can never play football again. (You're right, the fact that he's a product of the cantera makes it even worse.)

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audiologic January 14 2010, 16:54:23 UTC
1500 Euros a month? wow.

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txorakeriak January 14 2010, 20:03:38 UTC
It's not really much considering that he has to support a wife and a kid. He'll probably have to learn another profession if he can't play football again, and if the unemployment rate in Spain is anything like the one in Germany, it might be very difficult. :(

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audiologic January 15 2010, 00:13:57 UTC
yeah that's why I was surprised

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audiologic January 15 2010, 14:20:11 UTC
By the way, I just went on your website and uploaded a fic, and then I realized you'd already uploaded it to my account! Thanks so much for doing that, I'd been a little busy with getting back to school. I really do appreciate it :)

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motsdesoie January 14 2010, 17:49:02 UTC
it is shocking and it hurts but if there hasn't been a diagnosis in such a long time it's obvious that it isn't something minor. even if it's the laws in spain, i cannot blame the club for anything, that they support him doesn't mean that they can still pay him a full salary. i don't think this can end up satisfactorily for everyone because in the end he still has a condition and i don't know of conditions that cause your heart to fail that can be 'cured'. i mean i know they can but it's such a delicate organ so what i'm really trying to say is that i only care he's okay physically not his salary tbh :(

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txorakeriak January 14 2010, 20:08:46 UTC
I know, in a way it was to be expected, especially since the doctors can't seem to find out the nature of his condition. It's not even about the salary at all. I'm sure Rubén could accept a lower salary or something like a pension (though maybe a bit more than 1,500 Euros, considering that he has to support a wife and a kid). The problem is that once he's declared a sports invalid, he won't be allowed to play professional football ever again, even if at some point in the future a test says he can. I've heard of several players who play despite a heart condition (if you know Gerald Asamoah, he played for Germany during the 2006 World Cup and he's known to have a heart condition for years), and if it's nothing too serious, and if he takes his medication or pays attention to certain rules, he might actually be able to play again, but then he won't be allowed to because he doesn't have a licence.

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motsdesoie January 14 2010, 21:13:04 UTC
i didn't know that and i think that's a pretty fucking stupid regulation. let's say that things go wrong and he is declared sports invalid, he can't go back to professional sport even if somehow the origin of his health problems is found and treated? that's stupid and nothing more.

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txorakeriak January 14 2010, 21:19:27 UTC
That's what I gathered from some of the comments at hala_madrid, and I think it's damned unfair! I hope he won't give up but fight until the end.

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txorakeriak January 14 2010, 20:11:39 UTC
I don't know much about Spanish law, but it seems there isn't an alternative. Real wrote in their statement that they're following what the law dictates by making that appeal for sports invalidity, and there isn't really anything they can do no matter how much they want to.

I think it's horribly unfair to end the matter like this, especially since there's no definite test result. Nobody really knows what caused the collapse - maybe it was just a minor heart condition combined with stress or bad nutrition or whatever. I mean, several players are active despite their heart condition, like Gerald Asamoah, for instance. As long as they're properly monitored and obey certain rules, there's no reason why they shouldn't play professional football.

I hope the 1,500 Euros weren't Real's idea, because that would be completely ridiculous. Rubén has a wife and a kid, damn it.

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