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wildeagain April 3 2011, 02:42:47 UTC
Jack's "I'm running for the ball."

LOL without fail. OMG.

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cionaudha April 3 2011, 03:36:04 UTC
OWEN'S AWESOME NERD GLASSES FTW. SO CUTE!

SUPERCREEPY IANTO BRAIN-RAPE SEALED WITH A KISS FOR THE HELLISHLY DARK WIN. (Seriously, the sexual overtones of Adam's attack in the Hub were just nauseating. But in a narratively interesting way.)

BEST BOYFRIEND EVER AWARD FOR JACK, for maybe the first time in his life, for knowing and loving Ianto well enough not to be swayed by the best evidence in the world. I wanted to hug him for that, and for forcing Ianto to look at what Adam had done to him so he would understand.

DAWWWW, IANTO! So snuggleable when he's sitting all GUILTY DIRTY GUILTY in his little corner when Jack finds him. Who's my snuggy-boo? I mean monster.

I found Asshole!Tosh a little confusing and very off-putting.

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jooles34 April 3 2011, 03:37:34 UTC
I love Adam; for all it's gaping plot holes it's one of my fave episodes. I love Rhys and Gwen, sexy Tosh and geeky Owen is just adoreable. And frankly murderous/conflicted Ianto is sexier than it should be. I like them all going into their pasts and having them all spell out how fucked up they are. Yup, evil, don't care.

But my fave bit of the whole ep is when they are back to norm and Tosh and Owen talk about the flowers. Owen only denies the apology on the card and the look on his face...And then Tosh's little smile as she realises. Guh. Love it.

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teamharkness April 3 2011, 04:03:27 UTC

I'm going to go with Serial Killer!Murdery Ianto here. I really did enjoy that plotline because ... holy shit, it just proved that there is some potential for darkness in there. I would have loved to explore that some more.

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cionaudha April 3 2011, 04:50:21 UTC
Oh, I think he's had a bit of a dark side since he was a kid. He's just too honestly a decent guy to let it show much. But a guy who will literally whore himself to hide a large and desperate truth is not a guy to be trifled with.

Except by me. *trifles*

I'm with you though: did Adam plant "the bad stuff" because he saw the potential in him, or because he wanted to punish him as hideously as possible for being clever enough to figure out his game? Gruesome either way.

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teamharkness April 3 2011, 05:17:23 UTC

Well that dark side was present; I mean, if you looked in the archives, he had been to jail for several months for stealing. I mean, it wasn't like he killed anyone, but he mouthed off at a judge and was basically a delinquent. Who, Ianto? LOL. But yeah, the potential for badness is there. I mean, finding out at the end of COE the lie about his father -- it leads to wonder, what else was he hiding? What else was he lying about? No one knows. Who knows what kind of deep, dark, sinister secrets were hiding in Ianto's closet next to those immaculate suits.

And I would like to have known that -- I like to think that it was true and he had it retconned out of him. ;)

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cionaudha April 3 2011, 05:43:31 UTC
See, I think the Dad!Lie was more about class embarrassment than anything else. From everything we learn in CoE, it really seems to me that Ianto really never wanted Jack to know that he was from the projects.

I have friends who are in this position, where they have clawed their way out and into the educated middle class alone amongst their families, and it's painful to them. They can't go home again, and they feel a bit defensive and fraudulent in the world they've claimed as their own.

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ms_bekahrose April 3 2011, 05:07:50 UTC
At first, I hated this episode, the Adam character kinda creeped me out like WHOA. BUT... Geek-tastic!Owen has really been growing on me after watching this several times. So much potential to explore what Adam took from Owen to make the personality adjustment.

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