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Nov 29, 2008 08:25

sometimes i have panic attack symptoms in isolation when i'm doing nothing more than lying in bed, reading. sometimes all i can think of is flight when i know that there are situations in which i really should fight ( Read more... )

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anonymousblack November 28 2008, 23:29:16 UTC
so do you agree with how i've typed myself?

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anonymousblack November 28 2008, 23:29:34 UTC
p.s., i do that too.

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tree November 29 2008, 09:11:02 UTC
as an INFJ? absolutely. and i'm not just saying that because INFJs are, clearly, the best people. ;) have you done your ennea type? if you've told me, i can't remember.

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anonymousblack November 29 2008, 17:24:15 UTC
i have a book back in illinois--ennea has been harder. having read the whole chapter on 4, i'm pretty solid i'm not a 4, but because i've had artistic periods, people lump me as that.

if you read the conflicts for 9, that's a lot closer to problems i've had in my own life. then there was this whole "w" thing and i felt pretty resonant with one of those, 5w4? 4w5? but it might be wishful thinking. ;-)

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missparker November 28 2008, 23:47:41 UTC
i am house. why are all the fascinating characters INTJ? is it because i am one too, or does everyone find them the most fascinating?

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tree November 29 2008, 09:14:49 UTC
i seem to recall reading something somewhere (vague tree is vague) that people tend to react positively to their own types. like, even before being typed, people gravitate towards descriptions of the types that are more like themselves. then again i find house and darcy fascinating too. actually, i tend to find that many of the people i find fascinating in real life and fictionally are Ts. i don't know if it's an 'opposites attract' thing or what, exactly. it's just something i've noticed about myself.

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foxestacado November 29 2008, 01:14:03 UTC
Whoa, Darcy is an INTJ. Yeah...I guess so, now that I think about it.

I'm an INTJ, and that puts me in the delightful company of Dr. House and Darcy. Wow.

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tree November 29 2008, 09:25:31 UTC
that is some damn fine company to be in. :)

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wendelah1 November 29 2008, 03:54:55 UTC
I know so little about the MBTI types, other than my own and my husband's, that I don't think I could type characters even if I wanted to. But it might be useful to try, for writing about the characters.

The enneagram is a fascinating personality system. I like how it allows for the idea of personal growth and change. I have a hard time seeing myself in any one type, or even in two. Maybe I am one of those people with two wings.

I have an even harder time trying to figure out characters with this system, let alone real people, which probably rules me out as a 5, doesn't it?

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tree November 29 2008, 09:49:36 UTC
i recommend typelogic for MBTI information. i find that the more easily identifiable pairs are E/I and T/F. once i have those two figured out, at most i have to read eight profiles.

it does help me write fic, although the house/cuddy stuff is very recent, as is the mulder and scully enneagram. the thing i've found though is that what i've already taken to be true about the characters is reflected in those types. so i've come to a deeper understanding.

the enneagram is fascinating, and only gets more so the more you read. enneagram institute is a good place to start. i don't feel that i know you well enough to type you, though i'd venture to say you're not a 5 or a 1 or a 3 or a 6. you might be a 2 or a 9. i don't know anything about 7s and 8s, so i have no idea on those. i don't think you're a 4, but if you are it means we're effectively the same person. ;)

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wendelah1 November 29 2008, 10:37:17 UTC
I have started reading at the website. I just don't see myself as being embodied in any one of the numbers. I do think my husband could be a five. With a six wing, for sure.

I am probably a two-one or a one-two, I guess. Not a four, although, I do live inside my own head a lot. I am guessing I started out as a One, with a Two Wing. Now I guess I'll have to take the test and find out if I'm right.

I feel confused and fuzzy-brained. Sleep would help. How did it get to be so late?

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wendelah1 November 29 2008, 12:23:24 UTC
Okay, read a little more. Now, I'm thinking a Nine, One wing. Not a two, I'd love to be a two, but no. I'm not organized enough to be a one, although I'd like to be. Maybe in my next life. That whole losing oneself in others and always looking at the sunny side of life, da-dum, da-dum. A little of this, a little of that. No clear sense of self. Inertia. Yep, a Nine. Shit. lol. Oh well, it's not so bad being a Nine.

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amyhit November 29 2008, 06:09:51 UTC
I'd say these are alarmingly accurate on the whole. I feel like House is more of a P than a J, but then again, it might just be because i'm a 5w6 and an INTP, and I totally want an awesome character who's almost like me.

*snivels*

I'll get over it.

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tree November 29 2008, 09:59:42 UTC
aw, *pets* i'm pretty unshakeable in my belief of house's J-ness. here is the post in house_cuddy where lissie said pretty much the same thing about thinking he was a P and i explained my reasoning.

either way he's still almost like you!

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amyhit November 30 2008, 02:56:00 UTC
the INTP fear of failing is more about feeling, in a general way, that everything you do is bound to fail. House is quite opposite to that. at every new hypothesis he's convinced he'd right.See, i think House is the epitome of a personality who feels they are bound to fail. He has said that ‘everybody dies’ and i’d say he takes that very personally. He is aware that he is fighting a losing battle, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t feel like he’s losing it. He has said that ‘death is never dignified’, and often, after experiencing what those around him perceive as a resounding success he has been left in nothing short of a depressive state. I utterly love the end of ‘One Day, One Room’ in which cuddy and wilson are pleased that house has managed to help the girl who is a victim of a rape, and house responds, “all we’ve done is make a girl cry”. House strikes me as someone who knows all he needs in order to ‘preserve life’ is to find the right facts. I don’t think for a second that means he feels like he’s ‘saving lives’ or finding ‘ ( ... )

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tree November 30 2008, 03:45:19 UTC
you're allowed to disagree. :) i'm going to continue to disagree with your disagreement, though. for the record, the phrase is everybody LIES, not dies.

The Cottages

do you mean the ducklings? i've never heard to them referred to as that before.

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