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mm511 May 30 2006, 07:00:49 UTC
OK, so, you seem to be well-read re the comics ( ... )

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mm511 May 30 2006, 07:03:21 UTC
Err, by 'trade paperback version' I mean the things you can get for around 15 bucks that have a bunch of issues in them, not the format for chicklit or 'literary' endeavors common nowadays because it lets the publishers make more money than if they produced the book as a mass market...

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andythesaint May 30 2006, 07:48:01 UTC
There is an excellent trade that collects the Dark Phoenix story of Claremont and Byrne. That would be the best place to start (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785122133/sr=8-1/qid=1148973198/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-3066420-9765765?%5Fencoding=UTF8). It starts before Jean Grey goes all Dark Phoenix and carries through the story to the end. I'm not really sure about other trades, as I have other reprint issues covering every issue of Jean Grey as the Phoenix.

In the comics, Jean Grey AKA Marvel Girl becomes the Phoenix in Uncanny X-Men issue 101. She hangs around for a few issues as Xavier tries to figure out what's going on til 105, then shows glimpses of her new power levels throughout a space adventure with the Sh'iar and Starjammers in issues 105, 107-108. The X-Men have a few more battles, then in a huge battle with Magneto, Phoenix and Beast are separated from the rest of the team in ( ... )

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mm511 May 30 2006, 09:27:41 UTC
Hmm... I actually just rewatched the cartoon. It's good, but not as good as I remember it from when it first came out back in the 90s. Damn Memory and her incessant urge to make things better than they actually were!

It's not more info at all. When I get into something, I get into it REAL deep, so this is great. Let me make sure I get what you're saying.

If I wanted to read all the comics, starting from when Jean Grey first becomes Phoenix through the Dark "I'm crazy" Phoenix stuff, I'd have to read these alleged CLASSIC X-MEN comics, issues 9 through 33, and then the TPB ditty about the Dark Phoenix that's the first item you linked.

And what's this Phoenix Rising and Phoenix: Endsong stuff?

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cryingdrunkgirl May 30 2006, 08:39:53 UTC
I thought Alan Cumming was one of the first to sign onto the film. I remember shortly after X2 him saying that he loved the character and had saigned on for the next. I may be mistaken, but I thought that they just didn't bring him back because they were stupid.

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andythesaint May 30 2006, 08:43:15 UTC
Maybe his original signing was conditional to Singer's involvement. But I've heard that he didn't want to come back. Admittedly, news about comic book movies is always sketchy, but I remember reading that Cumming chose to not come back.

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cryingdrunkgirl May 30 2006, 08:46:07 UTC
I guess he changed his mind. I remember a HUGE deal being made about how he and the former Stamos had signed on already. It seemed to be true because it was in major publications with quotes from them-it wasn't just internet rumors......I tend to not trust the internet. Especially any "news" stories on IMDB.

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mm511 May 30 2006, 09:29:26 UTC
From what I hear in the grapevine, the problem was that Cummings hated putting on all that makeup, and the amount of onscreen time Nightcrawler had in X3 wasn't worth all the makeup, so they just wrote him out.

Of course, that's what Oscar-winner Halle Berry said at first, that she didn't want to be in it unless they gave her more onscreen time, and she came back. She did have one of the biggest roles, I suppose, and even that role is miniscule compared to a REAL leading roll in a movie. Talk about too many characters.

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