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In the comics, Jean Grey AKA Marvel Girl becomes the Phoenix in Uncanny X-Men issue 101. She hangs around for a few issues as Xavier tries to figure out what's going on til 105, then shows glimpses of her new power levels throughout a space adventure with the Sh'iar and Starjammers in issues 105, 107-108. The X-Men have a few more battles, then in a huge battle with Magneto, Phoenix and Beast are separated from the rest of the team in Antarctica under a volcano, each believing the other group dead (112-114). She then becomes a background story, as it is believed that there are no more X-Men, and this is where the seeds are laid for her corruption into Dark Phoenix. Grey is reunited with the others around 125, kicking off the Proteus Saga from 126-128, showing off Phoenix's frightening new power levels and leading into the Dark Phoenix saga as featured in the trade.
Getting all these issues would be very difficult, and incredibly expensive. There are reprints of these issues out there in the form of Classic X-Men, that were printed in the 80s (these are the issues I have), that should be affordable and available. They start with issue 9 continuing til issue 33. That's the best alternate to TPBs on the books I can think of (they can be bought here: http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=17292128602&publisher=MV&snumber=21). That breaks down every issue that Jean Grey as Phoenix appears in, until they resurrected Jean Grey later (which is reprinted in the Phoenix Rising TPB).
The cartoon was pretty faithful to the original comics, even copying some of the art. Characters had to be switched at times, but otherwise, it was pretty good.
Probably more info than you were looking for, but... I did say I was a huge X-Men geek.
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It's not more info at all. When I get into something, I get into it REAL deep, so this is great. Let me make sure I get what you're saying.
If I wanted to read all the comics, starting from when Jean Grey first becomes Phoenix through the Dark "I'm crazy" Phoenix stuff, I'd have to read these alleged CLASSIC X-MEN comics, issues 9 through 33, and then the TPB ditty about the Dark Phoenix that's the first item you linked.
And what's this Phoenix Rising and Phoenix: Endsong stuff?
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And have you ordered from this Mile High website? It's legit?
And if I were to read the Dark Phoenix TPB without having read the CXM 9-33, would I be totally and utterly lost?
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The Phoenix Rising trade is available from amazon, I believe they offer a deal if you buy it with Dark Phoenix.
I've used Mile High. They're the best comics site on the web and offer deals all the time. They say that they ship within a couple of days, but I had to wait longer because I'm in Canada. In the US, you should be fine.
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Work and buying a new home has cut into my free time significantly. I hate being mature.
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The original Uncanny X-Men, the stuff that deals with Phoenix and all that jazz, were they in black and white or color?
Because I got the Dark Phoenix TPB, and it's in color, but at the back, there are copies of "original artwork," and it's in black and white. And there are TPB called Essential X-Men or something like that, and they're in black and white...
... so, which is it? :-)
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However, these alleged Marvel Masterpiece editions seem to be in color...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785111921/ref=sr_11_1/104-5167072-1225512?%5Fencoding=UTF8
Also, what on Earth are these?:
http://www.mycomicshop.com/megastore/search?pcat=Comics%2DAll&til=11123
http://www.mycomicshop.com/megastore/search?pcat=Comics%2DAll&til=24746
I'm sorry to keep pestering... I just know nobody else who likes this stuff and knows as much as you, and trying to do online searches for things like "X-men phoenix" or "where do I begin reading comics?" isn't very lucrative...
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To answer your questions, the Marvel Masterworks series are in colour, but that particular edition covers Giant Size X-Men #1 (the first appearance of the All-New, All-Different X-Men of Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Banshee, Thunderbird, and Sunfire) to Uncanny X-Men 100, which you'll note is all pre-Phoenix stuff. In fact, most of it only includes Jean Grey (AKA Marvel Girl) as a supporting character, as she left the X-Men when the new members came (then was captured by Sentinels after a date with Cyclops, leading to her becoming the Phoenix in issue 101). They are all great reads, but not Phoenix-centric.
The first Phoenix mini does indeed deal with Rachel Summers, the child of Jean and Scott from an alternate dimension. She has her own Phoenix Force, given to her genetically from her mother. The series deals with her adventures in a different timeline as Mother Askani (there's a really complicated explanation for all of that, one that involves the almost-impossible-to-follow Summers family tree. It's so convoluted that even the comics themselves would poke fun of it). I think I have this mini-series, but can't really remember it. In any case, it's decades after the Dark Phoenix saga, and doesn't involve the Jean Grey incarnation at all, and is so non-essential that it doesn't deserve mentioning.
And, yes, I assume the other one is all porny and stuff, published in 2003 under Marvel's MAX line.
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One plus to the Classic X-Men (besides the fact that as reprints, they never really appreciated in value), is that for the first 40 issues or so, they had two stories in each issue. The first half would be the reprinted original story, and the second half was a new story written at the time of printing (80s), but set in the era of the first story (70s). These stories are mostly non-canonical, but still fun.
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