Beyond Mitt's Underwear: Part 1: Apostasy and Restoration

Apr 16, 2012 00:16

Mitt Romney is sewing up the nomination for President. Mormons are excited about the first modern Mormon candidate. (Joseph Smith announced his candidacy for President of the United States in January 1844, but was killed several months later.) Everyone else is curious about Mormons. Unfortunately, most people only seem to know they don’t drink ( Read more... )

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tongodeon April 16 2012, 09:21:44 UTC
Thanks for the corrections.

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flwyd April 16 2012, 03:42:30 UTC
Surely the golden plates deserve a mention here.

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tongodeon April 16 2012, 09:26:18 UTC
This is part 1, which is just the overview of the revelation and restored gospels. Moroni's golden plates, the large and small Gold Plates of Nephi, the brass plates of Laban, the egyptian papyri and facsimilies, and other artifacts which were translated into scripture will be mentioned in Part 2. (I've got seven parts drafted so far.)

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ianvass April 16 2012, 12:34:35 UTC
And I'm happy to fact check for you along the way. :)

Prophet Joseph Smith grew up in a Masonic household

While this might be true, I haven't seen anything stating this explicitly.

There were true ordinances as practiced by Adam in the Garden of Eden, but these practices had been corrupted by the “whore of all the earth” - the "great and abominable church" which was founded by the devil.

The principles and ordinances of the Mormon gospel are now the same in Adam’s day as they are today.

Nah, we don't preach that our ordinances are the same as what Adam practiced - heck, they've been altered twice since I've been going, so that isn't true. There might be some similarities, even largely so, but we have no specific doctrines claiming anything of the sort.

(The temple endowment ceremony features Satan enlisting help from a Protestant preacher.)

False.

that Adam performed Mormon rituals at Adam-ondi-Ahman on Spring Hill in Daviess County, Missouri.

See above.

Mormons still believe that Jesus’ Second Coming will occur at Spring ( ... )

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ianvass April 16 2012, 12:57:34 UTC
Also:

Mormons are excited about the first Mormon candidate.

SOME Mormons are excited about this. Many of us are apprehensive since we are doubtful that Mitt accurately represents us. Harry Reid comes nowhere close to representing us, and I'm sure Mitt comes closer than that, but still. Not to mention that this absolutely represents a whole lot of media coverage, much of which will misrepresent us, whether maliciously or not.

And technically, this is not true either - Joseph Smith had put his hat in the ring as a candidate for President of the US, though he did not get very far before he was assassinated. We can say this is the first world-known candidate. :)

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tongodeon April 16 2012, 16:34:56 UTC
Joseph Smith had put his hat in the ring as a candidate for President of the US, though he did not get very far before he was assassinated.

Good catch. I knew that, but forgot. Thanks for the correction.

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ianvass April 16 2012, 14:35:28 UTC
(The temple endowment ceremony features Satan enlisting help from a Protestant preacher.)

False, currently. There used to be a preacher in the endowment over 20 years ago, but there was no mention of religious affiliation. He could have been Baptist, Lutheran, Protestant, or non-denominational.

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anonymous April 16 2012, 19:51:41 UTC
You should add a link to Part 2 at the end of this for new readers.

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