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Sep 13, 2009 22:51

My brilliant self has an actual reputation at my unit for always managing to get lost. However, I'm still the driver for my section. Does that make sense to anyone? Anyone?

Well, was talking to a friend of mine at my unit today. She's highly religious, so I generally bug her with questions. She hasn't told me to shut up yet, so I guess it's a good ( Read more... )

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sarah_the_crab September 14 2009, 03:27:28 UTC
I've actually never heard that before. I'd like to see her say that to animal rights groups. -__-;;

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tir_synni September 16 2009, 02:43:56 UTC
Religion vs. animal rights = bad!mojo.

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sinnatious September 14 2009, 09:54:04 UTC
Except doesn't that fly in the face of all that scientific research regarding animal brain activity, training rats with electric shocks, and dogs yelping when you step on their tails?

It's not that animals feel less pain - it's that most animals have much smaller pleasure centres in the brain compared to humans. Dolphins are among the very few animals that have recreational sex, for example.

So I guess animals DON'T feel pain like humans do, because they don't have the same levels of pleasure to compare it against, but I get the impression that's not what her point was. Sheesh. Literal interpretation of the Bible - that must close all scientific, medical, and arts professions to you forever. Kind of hard to perform meaningful study when you've got that kind of confirmation bias floating around.

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tir_synni September 16 2009, 02:54:28 UTC
In this case, it's viewing the Bible literally and believing that God trumps science, so if science contradicts something in the Bible, it is to be disbelieved...an incredibly popular form of thinking. The main emphasis was on the pain of childbirth but it related to other forms of injury, as well.

I remember reading about one...I think Harvard?...professor who became Christian. He went through the Bible and cut out everything that went against science. In the end, when there was barely anything left, he decided he couldn't be a scientist and became a Christian. *shrugs*

Many people have a confirmation bias. This...happens to be more blatant?

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sinnatious September 16 2009, 09:53:17 UTC
See, that 'God trumps science' thing in taking the Bible literally blows my mind, because God didn't write the Bible, people did. Also, these people at the time writing believed the world was flat and that the Sun revolved around the Earth. :/ A Harvard Professor abandoning a lifetime of learning! I'll never be able to understand that kind of mentality. Faith and science are reconcilable, so long as you don't sweat the small stuff and don't take everything in a pre-schooler black-and-white interpretation kind of way.

Yeah, maybe confirmation bias isn't the right term, perhaps we're venturing into cognitive dissonance territory. :P

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tir_synni September 17 2009, 23:06:17 UTC
When it comes to who wrote the Bible, it's a matter of Belief instead of Ideas, so it doesn't matter what you can present to them (i.e. people wrote the Bible vs. God). You are wrong, they are right. That simple. (and I started writing "write" instead of "right" *facepalm*)

I think it's a mixture of both confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance. It depends on how you view religion as a whole. Seriously, in a different world, if you prayed to a zombie who rose after being nailed to a cross, you would be considered technically insane, anyway.

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artimusdin September 15 2009, 01:03:14 UTC
*taps foot impatiently*

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tir_synni September 16 2009, 02:56:59 UTC
:P

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kimerastorm September 15 2009, 07:25:05 UTC
Im fairly religious and I have no idea what shes talking about... unless shes confusing guilt with pain?

'The Curse' (bah du dum) Is that we have to work and suffer for everything in life, knowing that there was a time when we had everything on the proverbial silver platter.

Oh and it was for lying to Him and attempting to shift the blame onto others (Adam to Eve, Eve to the Serpent)... not for eating the damn fruit. LOL just to clear the record on that point.

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tir_synni September 16 2009, 02:56:10 UTC
The pain of childbirth = the Curse, and apparently carries over to other pains...I think? The curse put on Eve by God? *blinks*

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