The Election

Nov 21, 2004 02:37

A lot of people have questioned why I voted for Bush ( Read more... )

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misanthrope86 November 21 2004, 15:56:16 UTC
Not taking one side or the other...just a thought.

If a person is sick enough to WANT an abortion, would you really want to see that person raising a child? Perhaps the baby is better off. Sure there's adoption, but that's a step most women won't take once they see their baby; but then, in six months when it's kept them up for 3 weeks straight and they remember why they wanted to get rid of it in the first place...they lose it, and drown their kids...because they're fucking nuts and don't deserve to have children to begin with.

I think women, who recklessly get pregnant and then get abortions should just have their tubes tied...problem solved. It's a responsibility that they obviously can't handle.

Sorry you're "pissed off"...I would have thought that talking to me would make your whole day better;)

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volitionism November 21 2004, 22:52:15 UTC
If I may add my experience...

I'm pro-choice, along with my g/f. Yes. we're sexually active, but we're also VERY responsible about it. We treat sex very seriously, and above all else, we're responsible.

We talked about it before. And we decided that in this event something were to happen, and she were tog et pregnant. She'd have o get an abortion. Adoption's a terrible thing to do a child. And so is abotrtion.

You have to figure how the couple feels if they decide to get an abortion. There's no way to slice it. It IS killing a child. There's to much shit to it both phsycaiolly and mentally. And it takes a toll on the people involved int he relationship. the relationship itself suffers.

If were to have a child right now, both our lives, as good as they are would be screwed up. If we were to raise a kid. We'd have to be ready first.

So safe sex for us is not just about avoiding pregnancy, it's about avoiding that terrible situation that would scar us for the rest of our lives.

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tinkerbelle1 November 21 2004, 23:17:30 UTC
That's another point my sister brought up. The choice is to have sex in the first place, once you're pregnant, it's your responsibility to take care of the baby because you HAD the chance to prevent it, but fucked up. So it's the person's mistake in the first place. It sucks to make a baby suffer because the parents were to stupid to be safe.

I'm happy you and your lady are being safe, that's great. But I still think that a baby's life is more importanat than a relationship.
It would be hard to raise the child sure, but I guess that depends on what's more important to you, your child's life, or a relationship with the mother (which you could still carry on if the baby was alive).

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tinkerbelle1 November 21 2004, 23:21:10 UTC
True, but people who know they can't raise a child shoudl give it up for adoption. Yes it's hard on the child, but atleast they still have their life. There are women who do get repeat abortions, I believe. I'm not sure how that works with the chicks body, or how many they can get, but I think after one, the tubes should be tied. If they are ready for a baby then, then the should have the chance to have another one.

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cartman380 November 25 2004, 02:25:28 UTC
When it comes to the women doing the hanger thing, many women wouldn't be able to live with the pain or the guile because a lot of women do that procedure not knowing how much damage they have done end up dying because of blood loss.

I think that abortion should be legal, and partial birth abortion should only be used when the mother is in serious danger of losing her life. Also, I would never put myself in a position to worry about my partner having an abortion but I can't force my decision on everyone else. I think that Kerry was very clear in stating his opinions in the debates, I watched every one. I also think that a woman who is raped should not have to carry the child of her rapist, that is just plain sadistic. And I have to agree with misanthrope86 that people who are getting abortions are the best fit for parenting.

And on the stem cell research, we're not going to be paying women to get abortions for the stem cells, there will be enough for any research purpose from the current rate of abortions.

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tinkerbelle1 November 25 2004, 10:37:14 UTC
True, many of the women doing the hanger thing probably won't live. This may sound mean but, good. If they're killing they're baby, then they should know what it feels like. It's killing a human, like killing your sister, or brother, it's your blood. Or hell, even killing a stranger on the street ( ... )

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cartman380 January 2 2005, 07:07:28 UTC
I personally am pro-choice. I think that it is my decision as to what happens with MY body. Not that I would ever be able to have an abortion myself, but my beef with the issue is that our country is based on freedom, that is why people came here in the first place. The way I see it is that I'll be damned before I vote for anyone trying to take away my freedom, its MY body so its MY decision, nobody has the right to make that decision for someone else, regardless of the moral issues. So now it moves from not only trying to take away my FREEDOM OF CHOICE but also it now tries to push regulations onto me which infringe on my FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS PREFERENCES!!! Like I said, personally I would never be able to kill part of myself, but I have serious issues with someone telling me what I can and can't do with my body. The religion issue--I'm Catholic but I don't want anyone pushing religion on me even if the views agree with my own, I want to be able to choose for myself what I believe. What if the mother is in danger of losing her ( ... )

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cartman380 January 2 2005, 07:09:24 UTC
and by bf i mean best friend, not boyfriend hahaha!!

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