male privilege is reeking through many of your comments here. and for a person who says he's a feminist, maybe - just maybe - you could take a step far enough back to see how they also seem to be co-opting this post about the "yesallwomen" hash tag into another discussion of "but what about the men?"
But still, if you go on a morning news show and say ".75 to $1" people aren't going to jump your shit about it, save for a few uber-right wackjobs... maybe... Yeah, actually, they will.
Well of course not, men aren't abused, right? I feel like this is a response to a comment I didn't make, and not the bit you quoted.
And who is saying that WOMEN should build men's abuse centers? MRAs; their line, actually, sounds very like yours, as it is the idea that it is the job of feminism to address men's issues.
But why is that a job for feminism? ...remind me again, which intellectual and philosophical group was the one based on studying the power imbalances between the genders? That would be gender studies. Feminism is about addressing the inequalities faced by women.
I'm sorry but why should fourth wave feminism focus on men? Because feminism is a group based on studying the power imbalances between genders?
Wrong. Feminism was founded on the idea of creating a power balance and equality between the genders. We are still not there yet, so why should we focus on men-who are still more powerful and privileged than women?
I agree with noodledays that many of your comments are dripping with male privilege.
"One in three victims of domestic violence is male" That's only true if your metric is "People who have ever experienced one or more instances of domestic abuse". So if a guy has _once_ been hit by a partner, he counts. But if you look at instances, rather than individuals, the victims are _overwhelmingly_ female.
Not quite accurate. If a guy has _once_ reported being hit by a partner, he counts. Where are you getting that from? The website you've linked to says that _up_ to one in three victims _may_ be male, but doesn't elaborate where those figures come from or how they're measuring. I don't know where WebMD gets its figures from, but they're not borne out by the figures from the Bureau of Justice, which suggest that 15% of domestic violence victims are men and 85% are women, and that around 960,000 incidents are reported per annum. That obviously only includes reported crime, but various studies suggest that while there is certainly under-reporting across the board, reporting rates don't differ between men and women. I'm inclined to believe the stats from the DOJ rather than unreferenced numbers from webMD. If you can find me a source for the figure WebMD cites, we can talk about it, but as long as it's both unreferenced and unsupported, I'll go with official figures.
So if someone says "Here are some more reliable statistics", you're interpreting that to mean _I_ think you're a piece of shit? Or is that simply how it makes you feel? Or... something else? It's really not making much sense, if I'm honest. But I mean, if you're tired, perhaps you should just... not? Instead of throwing tantrums?
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Yeah, actually, they will.
Well of course not, men aren't abused, right?
I feel like this is a response to a comment I didn't make, and not the bit you quoted.
And who is saying that WOMEN should build men's abuse centers?
MRAs; their line, actually, sounds very like yours, as it is the idea that it is the job of feminism to address men's issues.
But why is that a job for feminism?
...remind me again, which intellectual and philosophical group was the one based on studying the power imbalances between the genders?
That would be gender studies. Feminism is about addressing the inequalities faced by women.
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Wrong. Feminism was founded on the idea of creating a power balance and equality between the genders. We are still not there yet, so why should we focus on men-who are still more powerful and privileged than women?
I agree with noodledays that many of your comments are dripping with male privilege.
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That's only true if your metric is "People who have ever experienced one or more instances of domestic abuse". So if a guy has _once_ been hit by a partner, he counts. But if you look at instances, rather than individuals, the victims are _overwhelmingly_ female.
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Where are you getting that from? The website you've linked to says that _up_ to one in three victims _may_ be male, but doesn't elaborate where those figures come from or how they're measuring.
I don't know where WebMD gets its figures from, but they're not borne out by the figures from the Bureau of Justice, which suggest that 15% of domestic violence victims are men and 85% are women, and that around 960,000 incidents are reported per annum. That obviously only includes reported crime, but various studies suggest that while there is certainly under-reporting across the board, reporting rates don't differ between men and women. I'm inclined to believe the stats from the DOJ rather than unreferenced numbers from webMD.
If you can find me a source for the figure WebMD cites, we can talk about it, but as long as it's both unreferenced and unsupported, I'll go with official figures.
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