guys, I watched Sherlock

[themonkeytwin]

Returning to my native soil (oh, I'm "home", by the way, whatever that even means), I discovered Sherlock S2 is availble from the region's iTunes (I think I may have suspected this, but put the matter aside due to reasons that don't entirely make sense to me any more), promptly download it, and took an entire week to watch the three of them. -

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[fannishliss]

I have watched s1 but not s2 yet. Am anxiously awaiting.

I have a strange relationship to Sherlock. I'm not blown away by it, but am utterly taken by Freeman's John, and his relationship with Cumberbatch's Sherlock, so I'm kind of smitten by it without really liking it all that much.

I've kind of been through the reccs for Sherlock and I've found a little but not a lot of stuff I like. I'm open to slash or gen, it doesn't matter to me. Right now I'm following a kind of cool story on twitter... I hope the author doesn't abandon it.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Icon: if Jude had read more Arthur Conan Doyle, how might his fate have been different??? :P

[themonkeytwin]

They certainly ramped up the second season. I hope you won't be disappointed!

I know you're quite the Whovian, does that contribute to how you view the series? Obviously I completely agree with what you enjoy about Sherlock, but I am curious about why you don't like it all that much. Is it the character of Sherlock himself, or the style, or the stories? I was never a big fan of the books, mostly because mystery and thriller generally bore me. And while there is clearly some fascinating characterisation going on in the canon, this incarnation is pulling it out and condensing it so that I don't have to wade through all that other stuff.

Icon: Alpha, following (?) in Moriarty's psychotic footsteps. He probably has read Conan Doyle, or at least one of his personalities have!

[fannishliss]

I found a person igrockspock who does really great Sherlock recommendations. I think you will like them because she tends to focus on longer stories, a variety not just slash, and stories about many of the supporting women characters in their own right.

:)

[themonkeytwin]

Ooh! Thanks for the rec. I'll have to check it out. :)

[workerbee73]

I'm really excited to hear your thoughts. I can't wait for PBS to air season 2. Even though I haven't seen it, I did read a few articles on the feminist backlash on 'Scandal' and I was so glad to see your perspective. I can already tell I'm going to love it just by reading your interpretation alone. Love the comparison of the masculine/feminine for discussion purposes. Nicely done. Now I just want to write fic about those concepts alone. ;)

Oh, and so much yes to the all-slash-all-the-time nature of Sherlock fandom. I haven't been able to engage either, and that makes me sad.

[themonkeytwin]

Oh, I think you'll love it. Sherlock appears to be one of those works especially that people watch according through the filter of their agenda, probably because so much of what's going on is in the details and extremely subtle. Much easier to impose your own perspective on than Transformers, for example. I did like what Moffat had to say in this interview about the second season. Most especially that just because he shows Irene and Sherlock's relationship in a particular way, doesn't mean he approves of it. Which is a distinction you'd think people would understand, but apparently not!

Now I just want to write fic about those concepts alone.

I know! We'll put that on the list too. ;)

I haven't been able to engage either, and that makes me sad.

Sigh. Just ... sigh. Well, when it does come out, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it! :)

[workerbee73]

It's funny-- the article they referenced in the Guardian was the very one I read. I'm really interested to see the episode now.

For me, Sherlock is one of those shows the point of which is anything other than shipping. It's a study of human nature, of otherness and belonging, of what's acceptable and what's not, and ultimately, of friendship. Deep, true, amazing, life-changing friendship. I love the way you described it here. Very well said.

As for the fandom-- I feel like I should clarify. It's fine to ship whomever you ship (and Lord knows I love me a good love story), but with that fandom in particular I feel like shipping them is a prerequisite to participating, and that just bums me out. Because it's just not how I view the show.

[themonkeytwin]

It's a study of human nature, of otherness and belonging, of what's acceptable and what's not, and ultimately, of friendship. Deep, true, amazing, life-changing friendship.

And I love the way you described this! Yes. This this this.

but with that fandom in particular I feel like shipping them is a prerequisite to participating, and that just bums me out.

No worries, that's pretty much exactly what I thought you were saying. It's my lament too, just said in a much nicer way. Other people's perspectives on a story can bring a lot to it, but if you fundamentally disagree about what it is and what it's about - and what to talk about! - there quickly stops being any point in trying to carry on a conversation

[lmx_v3point3]

I love you for being able to say what I was thinking when it comes to characterisation, only with beautiful and eloquent words rather than random squeeling that doesn't make sense to anyone. I hope you don't mind my mindless shipping too much. XD I am a lover of asexual exploration, and Sherlock does it so well.

Now watch this... http://youtu.be/XwFIE4Dft_U

xx

[themonkeytwin]

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. And by all means, sweetie, ship away, it doesn't bother me at all. It may be double standards, but I don't mind you shipping or what you post; it's that I can't venture into the general fandom without getting facefuls of it. You ≠ fandom. :)

*watches*

... MIND. BLOWN. That is amazing! I would watch that!

[themonkeytwin]

Blunder in all you like! Don't apologise. It's lovely to have new people around. *offers you tea and a cream bun*

And of course it's quite nice to have people tell me I have beautiful thoughts! That's never a problem. ;) Stop by anytime. You can even disagree and argue with me, if you like. :)

[themonkeytwin]

Oh, I just want you to feel free to if you want. :)

The tv tropes site is absolutely dangerous. I've got to the point where I don't go anywhere near it unless I know I can spare half a day at least. It NEVER ENDS and I love it. O.O

[themonkeytwin]

Really? Oh, boo. Although I don't really mind it, come to think of it. I wasn't all that taken with Moriaty himself, and dragging it out could have got tiresome. And I'm sure they're not short of ideas without him. Thanks for passing that along!

(Although they've also been known to lie to the audience before, so really, who knows for sure until we see it?)

[themonkeytwin]

Sorry I didn't reply earlier, I've been away from internet access for two weeks. O.O

That is kind of awesome. As a character note, I really do dig Moriarty killing himself fo' reels there. And given that they can do it well, I'd love it if they explored other villains (Moran especially, so that we can see the dark side of John reflected, and see how dangerous that could be, rather than the dark reflection of Sherlock). Colour me cautiously optimistic!