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kiku65 June 2 2008, 22:29:42 UTC
There's a rarepairings lj community, I'm sure of it... under the same name. Also various others supporting various pairings (Beckett/Sheppard and Beckett/Michael(!) to name but two).

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thefrogg June 3 2008, 20:42:46 UTC
The rarepairings lj community has been deleted and purged. I searched under interests, and there were three other comms listed - one specifically for HP (tell me you didn't see that one coming), one for crack pairings, and one for...I don't know, I forget, but it didn't apply, and none of them were particularly active.

'Other pairings' depend on your definition of 'rarepairing', which is arguable in both of those you listed and probably a dozen others I could name off the top of my head, but don't come anywhere close to the pervasiveness that is McShep.

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groovekittie June 3 2008, 21:51:56 UTC
I love this community and as a fan of McKay/Weir and Ronon/Teyla (not to mention Sam/Daniel, the red-headed stepchild of SG1), I've written for this comm numerous times. :)

They've even held ficathons!

And it's still around: sg_rarepairings

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thefrogg June 3 2008, 21:56:39 UTC
Yeah, it got pointed out below.::points down comments:: I did go through most of the posted fic in categories/pairings I was interested in and could stomach. The rarepairings (pan-fandom, not sga specific) comm was deleted and purged.

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lavvyan June 3 2008, 20:29:42 UTC
There's a variety of pairings in this fandom, though McKay/Sheppard is arguably the largest (I wouldn't know how many Weir/Sheppard stories there are). This year's BigBang should have something for you, and I suggest checking out the profiles of the authors who regularly appear in the newsletter as writers of rare pairings - they're bound to have the appropriate communities friended.

As for the beta reader issue, I'm not sure you can really speak of a McKay/Sheppard infrastructure. Some John/Rodney authors can ask repeatedly and for days and won't find a beta-reader even though their previously posted work is good, and others just have to snap their fingers and several people will volunteer. I haven't quite worked out the mechanics of that one just yet.

If all else fails, I don't see what's stopping you from organising a rare pairings festival of some sort yourself. :)

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lavvyan June 4 2008, 07:07:59 UTC
So you're saying that, what? The infrastructure is there, but the person is too unpopular to find a beta reader?

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thefrogg June 3 2008, 22:40:09 UTC
Slash-wise, McShep trumps every other pairing like HP trumps every other fandom from what I've seen. I don't know about het, or even gen, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the same.

Oh, I thoroughly enjoyed the results of last year's BigBang. Particularly Theory of Evolution, which I didn't realize was yours until after I messaged you, bad me which I keep coming back to over and over. I just pointed that particular comm/event out as an example.

From what I've seen, the event comms seem to have the beta reading infrastructure built in, or at least it's not the equivalent of cold-calling, I don't think; sga_beta exists, however unused. But finding someone, preferably more than one someone, willing to beta read something non-McShep, particularly outside of one of the big 'events ( ... )

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thefrogg June 3 2008, 21:12:33 UTC
Yay for McBeckett! And I can't spell.

I haven't really run into being savaged by the SGA fandom for not caring for it - I will read it, and adore the Rover series and the Ashtaroth series, as well as some other McShep stories, but most of those I got into because their authors or their author-groups were into other fandoms I found first.

I've gone back more than 400 posts on the sga_newsletter, and comparing McShep to the rest of SGA fandom is more than a little frightening like comparing HP fandom to anything else.

And here I am, writing...Lorne/Ronon, Lorne/Todd, and ::gasp:: a story that may well be the prequel to a Ronon/Todd story that I've been fighting tooth and nail not to write.

::glares at Taddpole the grumpy feline muse:: And Tadd is just sitting here smirking.

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thefrogg June 3 2008, 21:54:00 UTC
Thanks for pointing out the sg_rarepairings comm - which I think is what kiku was referring to above.::blush:: I did read the posted fics, as much as I could stand the pairings/moresomes ( ... )

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berlinghoff79 June 3 2008, 21:18:34 UTC
In my experience there's at least one main pairing in many of the bigger fandoms.
In SGA it's J/R for slash and J/Elizabeth for het, Jack/Daniel and Jack/Sam in SG-1, Clark/Lex in SV(don't know how big Clark/Lana is). In Buffy there are Buffy/Angel, Buffy/Spike and Spike/Xander, maybe Spike/Angel too, but I really don't know. I guess it really depends on the fandom.

A way to encourage the development of other pairing materials?

You said that rarepairings has been deleted and purged, why not revive it?
Yeah, modding a comm can be a pain in the ass, trust me I know, but you'd give your fellow rare pairing shippers a place to play. Host challenges, post at the noticeboard.
J/R only is as big as it is because there are always people who are willing to work their asses off for their pairing. The J/E shippers have regular challenges as do the gals and guys of many other SGA -pairings. team_sga did an OT4 AU fest in April which spawned some awesome work ( ... )

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thefrogg June 3 2008, 22:24:02 UTC
I posted in a comment earlier - the difference between Smallville and Buffy, or Smallville and SGA for that matter - is that SGA is an ensemble cast. John, Rodney, Ronon (or Ford, depending on your timeline), and Teyla are the central cast, but there are lots of other major characters to play with. And yet, McShep is the main one, even over Sheppard/Weir, from what I've seen. Smallville sets itself up for one main slash pairing (Clark/Lex). So do other shows with a similar cast makeup. Other ensemble shows have OTP camps and seem to be pretty divided.

Rarepairings has been purged - sg_rarepairings hasn't. Although...I'm a little put off by the lack of listed characters (named or unnamed wraith other than a generic queen) in the profile - wraithsteve is the only comm that includes them as characters, it seems like.

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berlinghoff79 June 3 2008, 22:32:53 UTC
I'm doing an annual survey since 2006 for the SG-Universe and there were 54 favourite pairings mentioned for SGA. I guess they'll have to do some advertising.

I don't think lots of Clark/Lana fen would agree with your view of SV, and neither would the Sam/Jack shipper about SG1. Both are ensemble shows. SPN is definitely true though.

Hmm, maybe there haven't been any fics with specific Wrath? If there have ask the mods to add the proper tags. I bet they'll do that. There's some development on the Michael/?, Todd/? front, lately.

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thefrogg June 3 2008, 22:39:09 UTC
Eep. I meant, slash pairings. I generally don't write/read het anymore, so my views are a skewed other than looking at the het fic listing on sga_newsletter. SV and SG1 are both designed for one main slash pairing that way.

I can't stand Michael/? fic. Major major squicktastic there. I'm all about the Todd/? though. Currently 11,000+ words into a Lorne/Todd novel with another 5000+ in the sequel. Plus a couple other shorts (Todd-centric gen). There HAVE been a handful of Todd-fic. And I've been trying to fill the gap some myself. But still. It's not much, especially for a character that inspires that many thinky thoughts.

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