[Poll] Perceived Kinkiness

[thefourthvine]

I am having a crappy day, people. I come to you for entertainment and distraction.

So, the other day - or maybe it was the other week; I'm not exactly Speedy Jenny, here - frostfire_17 said something that interested me. She said that she thinks Reboot Kirk would be kinkier than TOS Kirk

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[dramaturgca]

I volunteer to edit/proofread the Journal of Fandometrics. Seriously.

[thefourthvine]

Oh my god, so do I.

[dramaturgca]

You've been added as a moderator on the Journal of fandometrics. Because I need distraction from unexpected!conference presentation next week.

[wildestranger]

Who in the world could be kinkier than Captain Jack Harkness? No, really? Can such a thing be imagined?

Also, Captain Jack Sparrow - kinky until distracted by rum/passed out.

[scrollgirl]

I think Methos could probably give Jack Harkness a run for his money ;)

[thefourthvine]

See, I totally see him as the definition of not kinky. *has a divergent viewpoint* (But, really, he's willing to do anything and focused on nothing in particular! He's just like, "Yay sex in all possible permutations!" To me that is not kinky, it's just open-minded.)

[j00j]

Yeah, I'd totally buy this. My question is, and we don't have any canon data on this (do we have fanon data)-- what's considered kinky in the 51st century? Anything? Maybe having specific focuses is kinky? And what about the 23rd century? What's kinky if you're a vulcan? Seriously, we need some ethnographic research or something.

[rivkat]

See, I distinguish between kinky and just willing to do anything that anyone suggests, which is why I'm not sure Jack Harkness is all that kinky, though the immortality kicks him up a notch in my estimation. Thus, Dean Winchester = not particularly kinky, just slutty. In my definition, kinky people have more requirements.

[darthfox]

Huh. See, and you lose me at "requirements"; I think digging it is kinky, and needing it is fetishy. (I also think Jack is not only willing to do anything that anyone suggests, but also the source of a fair few ideas of his own.)

[penknife]

Yeah, I'm torn between definitions, because some characters I'm rating high for "has probably tried everything it's physically possible to do with one or more partners of various genders," and other characters I'm rating high for "would have serious problems with sticking to purely vanilla sex," and these are really two different scales.

[thefourthvine]

Someone else who defines kinky the way I do! (I gave Jack Harkness a zero: he's entirely willing, but totally not focused, and he has no requirements to speak of).

[moosesal]

I'm cracking up at the almost unanimous (so far) results for Jack Harkness. That is awesome.

[thefourthvine]

As one of the few dissenters, I am likewise amused. *g*

[jamjar]

I've marked, but I'm going to say that:

a) Different cultures have different ideas of kinkiness, so all of this is based on how kinky they perceive themselves to be, related to their own background. In other words, one world's vanilla is another's kink, so Teyla may be kinky by her own standards, but the things that are kinky to her wouldn't necessarily be kinky to John and co, and the things they think make her kinky, might seem vanilla to her. And not even french vanilla.

b) Jack's experienced enough that he views himself as kinky by the standards of most worlds, which means he's open-minded in his own description, but will also say that to a lot of the universe? Not even close to kinky on a universal scale. That said, he's always willing to try something new to see if he likes it, again to see if that was just fluke and third time for luck.

c) Methos is kinky when it's appropriate, when it fits who he is right then and who he's with.

[penknife]

Different cultures have different ideas of kinkiness, so all of this is based on how kinky they perceive themselves to be, related to their own background. In other words, one world's vanilla is another's kink, so Teyla may be kinky by her own standards, but the things that are kinky to her wouldn't necessarily be kinky to John and co, and the things they think make her kinky, might seem vanilla to her. And not even french vanilla.

*nods* This is my trouble with figuring out how to rate Spock, because I don't think Vulcan and human ideas of kinkiness overlap very much.

[thefourthvine]

Different cultures have different ideas of kinkiness, so all of this is based on how kinky they perceive themselves to be, related to their own background.

I was actually aiming for how kinky you perceive them to be, but I also like the idea of considering how they must see themselves.

That said, he's always willing to try something new to see if he likes it, again to see if that was just fluke and third time for luck.

Are you suggesting there are things he tries that he doesn't like? Because if so, I have just developed a desperate need to read a story about that: Five Sex Acts Jack Harkness Didn't Enjoy.

Thank you for this sudden and acute yearning. And I can't even write it myself, because I don't know the canon at all.

when it fits who he is right then

So very true. Although I would also maintain that he has a fundamental neckplay kink that he probably tries to hide or suppress most of the time.

[jamjar]

So very true. Although I would also maintain that he has a fundamental neckplay kink that he probably tries to hide or suppress most of the time.

Well, with other immortals maybe. I like to think maybe some of his wives teased him about still liking hickeys at his age. Oh, how little they knew...