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Nov 28, 2010 17:03

I just sent off a pretty argumentative response to a rude PM I received, and I'm looking for some validation on a few fanfic topics ( Read more... )

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audreyii_fic November 28 2010, 22:41:57 UTC
1. Well... while there's no obligation to tell, I admit that a warning ahead of time tends to be nice. Not whose death, of course. Failing that, a "tragedy" warning is a nice touch ( ... )

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majestamoniet November 28 2010, 23:14:24 UTC
I still get extremely depressed whenever I think about it.

*HUGS* lol. It's like The Fic That Cannot be Named. *sigh*

If a story wasn't tagged with a pairing but the author promised there'd be J/B action, would you give it a chance? Basically, if you weren't certain J/B would be endgame (like the actual Twilight series for instance), would you read?

Can't keep everyone happy.

And I don't have a problem with people not liking the direction I took the story in. Expressing negative opinions is all good. I just can't stand it when readers try to pull the whole guilt trip over me by rationalizing their anger with topics like this. Like they want me to agree with them that I was wrong for doing what I did. *headdesk*

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audreyii_fic November 28 2010, 23:23:55 UTC
Basically, if you weren't certain J/B would be endgame (like the actual Twilight series for instance), would you read?

Unless the fic came extremely highly recommended by people whose opinions I trusted, no. I wouldn't.

I just can't stand it when readers try to pull the whole guilt trip over me by rationalizing their anger with topics like this. Like they want me to agree with them that I was wrong for doing what I did. *headdesk*If it wasn't J/B that would be exceptionally douche-y, but I'm somewhat sympathetic to this particular fandom. People read J/B fic because we got fucked in canon. So I tend to think that heartfail should be clearly labeled... since most of us are looking to escape the heartfail we got handed in the books. (But, again, I say that as someone who does not. like. character. death.) That being said, again, you accomplished what you wanted to accomplish. It just happens to be on a subject that was going to make some people angry, and they believe they have rational reasons for their anger. When I get negative ( ... )

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majestamoniet November 29 2010, 18:10:27 UTC
Yeah, if it's a story that advertised as being "about Jake and Bella" then I agree that there shouldn't be a huge part of the story dedicated to Bella being with someone else or to Jacob being with someone else. But if one of them ends up with someone else else at the very end of the story (as a consequence of all of the Jacob and Bella action during the body of the story) then I don't have a problem with it, if it's done well. (have you read pixie's "My Best Friend's Wedding"?)

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mrscheckerbunny November 28 2010, 23:28:26 UTC
1. This is just my personal opinion, but I'd say yes. Personally I don't read 'deathfics' at all 'cause they hit a sore spot for me. For me it's always a plus to know if someone will die, so I can avoid it even I miss a really cool story.
2. I have to quote ysar Why can't it be romance and tragedy?
3. Like I already mention, I try to avoid deathfics. I'm fully aware that life isn't full of rainbows and so it can't be in fics, but I just can't read deathfics.
4. I think it depends on the author. Unfortunately some people don't want to read certain pairings and gets annoyed if the constellation change. On the other hand, if you buy a book there is no summery in the beginning of what will happen with the different characters in the book.

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majestamoniet November 29 2010, 18:11:58 UTC
Would you get angry if an author didn't warn you of a character's death at the beginning of a story? Like, is that something you think authors should definitely be advertising?

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mrscheckerbunny November 29 2010, 18:47:08 UTC
I wouldn't get angry, I've read a couple of stories where the author didn't 'warn' about a character's death. This is a choice the author need to make, but as a person who had dealed a lot with death in her life I just don't want to read it. Period. It's annoying to read a story and be confronted with a character's death, because it rips healed wounds open, but I never would blame the author for this decision because it's some sort of a spoiler of the story. Personaly I'd prefer if people would 'warn' about it, but I wouldn't get angry if not. Does that make sense? I hope so.

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butterflysteve November 28 2010, 23:43:38 UTC
1. Yes. Not necessarily who it is but if there is character death in it then I want to know in advance. I wouldn't want to get twenty chapters in and then be hit with character death. If I know in advance then I can make the decision whether to read it or not.
2. It depends. Is the fic about the loss of that person or their romance up until their loss and after it? Because if its just about loss than its not a romance, if you show them together either as flashbooks or memories or dreams or before the death than it is.
3. If the author hadn't warned me a death was coming then yes. If I'd been warned then no, I'd still read because I'd made a choice to read that type of fiction.
4. No but you should tell me if it includes that pairing in it. I don't mind if a fic starts out as E/B and ends J/B or starts J/B and ends E/B. I just want to know. Some pairings aren't my thing, so if you include a note saying features: E/B, J/B, E/J, E/Truck then you know I'm warned in advance and I can make a decision on that before I get invested in the fic

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majestamoniet November 28 2010, 23:52:42 UTC
May I ask why you think fanfic authors should be obligated to warn you about character deaths? Book authors don't put character death warnings at the beginning of novels, so I'm curious as to what you see the difference to be.

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butterflysteve November 29 2010, 10:09:58 UTC
Book authors don't no but they're usually assigned a genre that gives you an indication of what the story contains. A romance is classified as a romance for having an optimistic and uplifting ending and most fanfiction authors don't realise that and just go well, it's a love story I'll put it in the Romance section. Not understanding that the audience for a Romance and the audience for a Tragedy or Drama can be completely different. For example Romeo and Juliet is the greatest love story of all time but you would not find it in the Romance section ( ... )

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majestamoniet November 29 2010, 18:30:25 UTC
What about books like Harry Potter? That's a YA series, and Rowling kills off a main character (and several secondary ones), but I don't feel like she was reaching beyond her genre when she did that. It was just part of one of the many ups and downs of the journey ( ... )

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pnai_87 November 28 2010, 23:47:57 UTC
1. If there is a character death in a fanfic do you think that the author is obligated to include a warning at the beginning? As a reader would you even want to be told ahead of time?

I've read stories before that don't tell me ahead of time that a character dies (not just yours) and not just fanfiction, actually books and even some movies do it. Some things you actually expect a character to die. I watch certain movies with my brother and more than once we say, "Oh, that character is so going to die."It's sad. You get attached to characters and you feel bad that they die (unless it's a soap opera or something, but do not get be started) I don't think it ruins the story at all. As a reader, I find it best to look at literature, any literature, with an open mind. Everyone has their preference. And I don't believe that an author is obligated to compromise or change their writing style or their story plot based on popular opinion, or what others might want to read. Artistic rights. If I see Character Death in the summary, I'll pause for ( ... )

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majestamoniet November 29 2010, 18:43:17 UTC
The word "romance" denotes that there is a loving relationship in the story.

Exactly. When I choose the "genre" for my story on FFnet, I just ask myself what are the strongest elements in the fic? There's only one tragic thing and a TON of romantic things, so...I call it romance. *shrugs* Makes sense to me.

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