Harry’s Unpopularity: A Conspiracy Theory

Feb 16, 2011 14:20


I’m as much alone
as a schoolgirl crazy about geometry

Forūgh Farrokhzād, “I Feel Sorry for the Garden”
“While the magical container is still intact, the bit of soul inside it can flit in and out of someone if they get too close to the object. I don’t mean holding it for too long…. I mean close emotionally…. You’re in trouble if you get too ( Read more... )

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oryx_leucoryx February 18 2011, 05:57:33 UTC
Being The Chosen One translates into having a fanclub among the other students, as being The Boy Who Lived had not in book one.

We don't have to come up with conspiracy theories to explain this difference. In PS Harry's only achievement was made in his infancy, in HBP he has a resume of recent accomplishments. In PS Voldmeort was scary but not immediately present, in HBP he was known to be around, so people needed their champion and they needed him there and then. Also, the Chosen One did not make any new friends, he just had a bigger fan-club. So I don't know if anything fundamental changed since PS.

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annoni_no February 18 2011, 06:28:03 UTC
It's an interesting theory, but is it really necessary? We know Dumbledore tended to be more confident in his own cleverness than was necessarily warranted. What if he'd run some of his own tests on the infant Harry and come to the conclusion that a horcrux trapped in a human body as opposed to an inanimate container was unable to possess anyone? He wouldn't have felt the need to bother with any additional protections once he convinced himself of his initial conclusion ( ... )

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Testing the Harrycrux terri_testing February 21 2011, 04:48:48 UTC
See my blanket reply, below; obviously this theory didn't quite fly ( ... )

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Re: Testing the Harrycrux lynn_waterfall February 21 2011, 04:58:31 UTC
Twinkles had Harry available for testing for that one lost day of canon. During that time, he managed to test, to his absolute satisfaction, that the soul-fragment in the Harrycrux, in absolute contradistinction to every other Horcrux ever made in history, could not "flit out" and possess others? When non-Horcruxified Tom Riddle had had that power?

Sure, why not. Dose a lab rat with the appropriate affection-guaranteeing potion or spell, cast Petrificus Totalus on it, put it next to the baby. Observe. Use Legilimency.

24 hours sounds like enough to me, particularly if you don't particularly care about the people you're putting the baby with... and have someone to keep an eye on the place, or will shortly.

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Re: Testing the Harrycrux terri_testing February 25 2011, 05:49:15 UTC
I like this ( ... )

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mary_j_59 February 18 2011, 16:34:09 UTC
Actually, I agree with Annoni Noi. Dumbledore is evil enough, and Harry damaged enough, without adding extra machinations. Though the theory does hang together!

My favorite horcrux theory was put out, I think, by Nemesister. It was that all of Harry's magical abilities actually came from the horcrux, and belonged to Voldemort. Once Harry destroyed that horcrux and defeated Voldemort, he would become a Squib. Now, doesn't that one make sense? I love it, actually. It would have been good if Harry had actually had to sacrifice something in order to win.

But that, of course, is another question entirely.

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danajsparks February 19 2011, 01:09:10 UTC
A few thoughts....

**It is normal for bullied children to still have a few friends. But many, though definitely not all, bullied children still have supportive family members at home who can reassure them that they are worthy of love and friendship, and that gives them some confidence to continue to pursue friendships. Harry didn't have that.

**The fact that Harry was abused and bullied as a child might be why he doesn't form many close relationships at Hogwarts

**JKR's description of Harry's childhood is very cartoonish, so I take him having absolutely no friends with a grain of salt.

**Similarly, Harry's apparent isolation in his first few years at Hogwarts may just be due to JKR's inability to include more characters in her earlier books.

**In previous essays, you've discussed the effects that the Harrycrux itself may have upon the people around Harry. I'm more willing to suspect that of influencing people than a spell cast by Dumbledore. There's a lot more canon to support the theory that the Harrycrux is affecting others.

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Blanket reply terri_testing February 21 2011, 04:32:09 UTC
Sigh. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Myself, I'm so suspicious of Twinkles that ANYTHING that happens to his benefit (Harry's friendlessness among the Muggles, Harry's wizarding friends all being Dumb-supporters), I want to assume an effect of the Twinkly One's magical coercion.

But sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.

(Sighs as friends rein in her flights of fancy....)

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Re: Blanket reply lynn_waterfall February 21 2011, 04:49:41 UTC
Aw...

This was a very enjoyable read. It just doesn't strike me as *necessary* to explain what we see.

(Also: how on earth did your post get that *date*? (wonders what date my post will show...) )

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Re: Blanket reply danajsparks February 21 2011, 04:56:10 UTC
I am also very suspicious of Twinkles. And I've loved reading your flights of fancy. :)

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