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[tausirhasirim]

THE LINEAR EGREGORE VS THE REAL EMPOWERMENTS

(When I wrote this - some fifteen years ago - I was still trying to fight the good fight with OTO, Inc.  granted, it was a useless effort, as haters gonna hate, cultists gonna cling to cult.  I also realized that ecclesiastic lineages contribute to hierarchical theocratic dogmatic sectarianism, I have

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[whispernox]

Jeans creamed.

Looking for a clean pair...

creme de la creme

[tausirhasirim]

Jeans creamed.

Looking for a clean pair...

I'm glad you share my enthusiasm for...uhm....film noir.

[weishaupt]

Drawing on my experience as a former elected member of the British Scociety for Psychical Research (SPR), I proposed an objective experiment, based on parapsychological “triple blind” carefully controlled experiments with alleged psychic healers. Bertiaux had said that he could tell by the ‘aura’ of Bishops which lineages they held, and which they did not, and I proposed a well-controlled, relatively inexpensive experiment in which unconsecrated ‘controls’ would be ‘read’ by a well-attested alleged ‘reader’ who would have the task of distinguishing the ‘unconsecrated’ from the ‘consecrated’. I outlined several variations. In short, I was willing to put my ideas to the test. David seemed less than enthused and nothing ever came of it.

Pity. I'm intrigued by the possibilities of this sort of experimentation.

Scientific Illuminism

[tausirhasirim]

I'm intrigued by the possibilities of this sort of experimentation.

I am more than intrigued....I think it is the essence of Scientific Illuminism. Silence & Strength recently pointed out that if you google "scientific illuminism" my name comes up first. Flatters my ego, but I wish it were otherwise. While one can argue the merits or lack thereof of various contributions to philosophy, poetry, mountain climbing, literature et al to emerge from the "A.C. school of occultism"- for me, Scientific Illuminism is the principle *original* contribution - the aim of religion, the method of science.

It has become alas a passing thought for many, drunk on superstition and belief-based notions, or equally drunk on 'reason' which - in and of itself - hardly comprehends the full range of the Great Questions.

But *I keep trying*. Is the OTO a suitable vehicle for this? Not under Brother Scriven, I'm afraid.

Re: Scientific Illuminism

[peristera]

If you google "dung of diseased prostitutes" our site comes up first

Re: Scientific Illuminism

[k_navit]

Bwahaha!

[soror_daath]

“Let’s face it,” Bill proffered, after an embaradded silence, “ the future of Thelema belongs to academics. We’re the past.”

This bothers me GREATLY. : (

P.S.

[soror_daath]

NO. We're NOT the past.

Re: P.S.

[tausirhasirim]

I know that. You know that. Maybe Bill is.....projecting?

;-D hope so.

Re: The "juice" is in the Succession

[tausirhasirim]

"Koneig probably freaked them out by pointing out a few holes in Crowley to Alpha transmission. And when they were unable to prove him wrong for a lack of evidence they decided that Apostolic Succession was no longer important."

This is precisely my opinion.

Thing is, Scriven and I de facto proved that the OTO does have Apostolic Succession, whether through Grady or through Bill and David and, for that matter, me.

Personally, I think Crowley did have it, and Koenig's 'case' is mere propaganda. The right and wrong of it is less important than the illustration of the mopral and intellectual cowardace of "the great leaders" in the face of what seems to have been the rather shallow opinions of one Swiss crank.

Re: The "juice" is in the Succession

[peristera]

I wouldn't consider myself "scared away" - annoyed to the point of indifference would be more accurate.

Re: The "juice" is in the Succession

[tausirhasirim]

Well said.

[shakti_mouse]

hmmmmm hawww hmmmm

contemplates

OM HUM TROM HRE AH

[tausirhasirim]

We all should.