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enders_shadow July 14 2010, 20:16:07 UTC
Maybe this is cynical, but I don't think women would have rallied to Hilary in the way blacks rallied to Obama.

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box_in_the_box July 14 2010, 20:52:22 UTC
Bingo.

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verytwistedmind July 14 2010, 20:55:35 UTC
valid point but I, a life long Republican, had no interest in McCain. Many other Republicans felt the same way. I admit to thinking "I'll vote for McCain and hope he dies" but I knew he wouldn't he's nearly immortal (black magic, palladium bullets and topaz kryptonite are the only things that can kill him.) I would have voted for Hilary over McCain (or have thrown my vote away to Ron Paul)

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enders_shadow July 14 2010, 20:18:28 UTC
Maybe Thrasymachus was right.

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verytwistedmind July 14 2010, 20:55:52 UTC
IDGI.

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enders_shadow July 14 2010, 20:57:30 UTC
In Plato's Republic, he is the one who voices the opinion that [to simplify it a bit] might makes right.

The clever criminal who does what he/she wants doesn't get caught is the winner, while the law-abiding citizen isn't.

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verytwistedmind July 14 2010, 21:39:55 UTC
IAWTC now. thank you Mr. Shadow.

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rogerdr July 14 2010, 23:45:59 UTC
Allegations are not evidence.

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dreadfulpenny81 July 15 2010, 02:48:38 UTC
Do you believe Barak Obama stole the election from Hillary? In away, I'm glad he did. I think Mrs. Clinton would have lost to McCain and as much as I dislike President Obama the only worse choice was McCain (who I voted for because by the time I got to ballots it didn't matter).

So corruption in the election process only matters to you if YOUR candidate wins?

Interesting...

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stewstewstewdio July 15 2010, 09:52:28 UTC
I was convinced supporter of Hilary. I regretted her loss but accepted it. It seems this forum is becoming more and more of the tabloid-like conspiracy theory outlet with more and more manufactured evidence.

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verytwistedmind July 15 2010, 14:08:12 UTC
The Al Franken report is not tabloid news it is a fake that fellons were voting.

The documentary, that is not being covered by the main stream news, shows testomeny of voter fraud. Her original intent was to prove that when a Democrat win it's through honest means.

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stewstewstewdio July 15 2010, 16:07:17 UTC
Yeah, until her candidate lost in what was touted as an apparent upset. I was disappointed that she lost, too. But I think with the international respect that the Clintons have earned, I think she is in the right position.

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