valid point but I, a life long Republican, had no interest in McCain. Many other Republicans felt the same way. I admit to thinking "I'll vote for McCain and hope he dies" but I knew he wouldn't he's nearly immortal (black magic, palladium bullets and topaz kryptonite are the only things that can kill him.) I would have voted for Hilary over McCain (or have thrown my vote away to Ron Paul)
I find the Republican 180 on Hillary fascinating, since her name was spoken by Republicans with the same tone of voice that one would use to say "Satan" back when Bill was still president. Moreover, as a lifelong liberal who would have voted for the Democrat regardless after eight years of Bush, I still harbored a deep dislike of Hillary on a personal level, in spite of agreeing with a lot of her policies, simply because she projected such an elitist and authoritarian personality (see also: Al Gore), and if I felt that way as someone who would have VOTED for her, then I'm pretty sure she would have alienated a lot of undecideds.
My 180 on Hillary is based solely on the lesser of three evils. McCain is a weak, slow, idiot who's has never written a law I agreed with. Obama was a neophyte with no experience except as a teacher and a lawyer and a community organizer. Hillary at least had experience that I could validate on a resume.
Is she still evil? Abso-fucking-lutely! Is she less evil than McCain or Obama, yes. Unequivocally as my President would say.
I still harbored a deep dislike of Hillary on a personal level, in spite of agreeing with a lot of her policies, simply because she projected such an elitist and authoritarian personality
You do not see this in Barak Obama? I can see why you don't in his special needs VP but the Obamas?
I thought President Clinton was very much a non-elitist in attitude (not mentality though)
ya know there may be one or two bills he's written that I liked that I can't think of. When I think of McCain I think of bad gun laws, bad campaign laws, bad immigration laws.
Not nearly as much as I do in Hillary Clinton. Indeed, one of Obama's biggest flaws is that he's TOO open to compromising with the opposition, whereas Clinton was officious and presumptive and insufferably entitled even with people who were supposedly on the same side as her (which is a big part of the reason why health care reform failed under her watch).
I thought President Clinton was very much a non-elitist in attitude (not mentality though)
Agreed. Indeed, he turned himself into an excellent tar baby, because every one of the most reprehensible aspects of his public persona was also what elevated his popularity among the know-nothing redneckistan base that people like Sarah Palin cater to, so when the GOP tried to condemn Bill for screwing around on his wife, all that the sexist white Southerners saw was a skirt-chasing good ol' boy who was putting his "bitch wife" in "her place" (actual quotes from actual rural Republicans of my acquaintance).
Yes, immediately after the election of our nation's first black president, with the middle name "Hussein" and allegations of being born over seas and being a "secret Muslim," I'm sure there was absolutely no degree of retroactive back-tracking on the part of scared shitless Republicans who desperately wished they could have had a Democrat who was white and, like Clinton, further to the right on military policy than McCain. Especially since that poll specified that the vast majority of those oh-no-wait-we-really-wanted-McCain-instead voters were white. Bottom line, it took the reality of the "scary" black man with the "non-American" name in the White House to make Clinton seem appealing in retrospect.
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Is she still evil? Abso-fucking-lutely! Is she less evil than McCain or Obama, yes. Unequivocally as my President would say.
I still harbored a deep dislike of Hillary on a personal level, in spite of agreeing with a lot of her policies, simply because she projected such an elitist and authoritarian personality
You do not see this in Barak Obama? I can see why you don't in his special needs VP but the Obamas?
I thought President Clinton was very much a non-elitist in attitude (not mentality though)
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Not nearly as much as I do in Hillary Clinton. Indeed, one of Obama's biggest flaws is that he's TOO open to compromising with the opposition, whereas Clinton was officious and presumptive and insufferably entitled even with people who were supposedly on the same side as her (which is a big part of the reason why health care reform failed under her watch).
I thought President Clinton was very much a non-elitist in attitude (not mentality though)
Agreed. Indeed, he turned himself into an excellent tar baby, because every one of the most reprehensible aspects of his public persona was also what elevated his popularity among the know-nothing redneckistan base that people like Sarah Palin cater to, so when the GOP tried to condemn Bill for screwing around on his wife, all that the sexist white Southerners saw was a skirt-chasing good ol' boy who was putting his "bitch wife" in "her place" (actual quotes from actual rural Republicans of my acquaintance).
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