Here we go again

[luzribeiro]

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[htpcl]

"Most things the communists told us about communism have turned out a lie. Everything they told us about capitalism has turned out true" -- Vaclav Havel

Btw, you know things have gone really bad over there when US news finally makes it to our BG media.

[htpcl]

Over there = in the US.

There's a lot especially bad over here - problem is, most people over here don't expect to see that there's a lot of bad over there as well. Because over there has been viewed as much better than over here. But then again, we over here are a bunch of deluded Balkanites who've long lived under a glass lid.

[luzribeiro]

Careful, you're not being particularly productive in your observations.

[luzribeiro]

He's No True Cop.

[underlankers]

Right, so choking a guy to death with a move that was being phased out is somehow justifiable? How the Hell do you call yourself a libertarian with a straight face?

[sandwichwarrior]

Hate to break it to you but the cops were acting within the bounds of the law there. You don't like it? Change the law.

I think that it is stupid and hypocritical to demand that someone be arrested and then be outraged when that person is injured or killed resisting said arrest. Shit son what did you expect to happen?

[telemann]

Prosecutors are unwilling to challenge this culture, because they work with the police on a daily basis, meaning that they not only need the police's cooperation but they're also personally sympathetic with them. Judges are incompetent and/or overworked, so they're in a poor position to provide a forceful counterpoint to prosecutors and police who effectively seek to shield the police from consequences. Meanwhile, juries (when we get as far as calling them) are culturally pre-disposed to give great weight to police officers' accounts; and legislators, governors, and police commissioners are all themselves focused on keeping themselves in office, which only once in a great while will turn on how they handle or address these kinds of events. Well said. Last month, several organizations formally requested that the Eric Gardner grand jury testimony be made public. It was unusually diverse group too, including the conservative Murdoch daily The New York Post, as well as the New York City public advocate, the Legal Aid Society, the New York

What to do.

[chron_job]

> why this is happening, and what needs to be done about it

[underlankers]

Ironic that it's the area too small to be a state and too large to be an insane asylum that finally puts one of these people on indictment and an actual possible trial. Now I predict that the same people who see the evil hand of the government in anything they don't like will reflexively defend the right of the government to use lethal force whenever it suits it because it won't ever happen to anyone like them, or so they might well think.

[sandwichwarrior]

Conversly will the same people who are always going on about "fighting the man" and the evils of police corruption continue to vociferously defend the concept of "qualified immunity" and demand even greater government oversight and intervention in daily life?

What happens to Eric Garner in a City or State where selling loose cigarettes is not grounds for imprisonment?

The law is violent. Protesting the violence of it's officers while demanding more violence proves just how insincere all this outrage really is.

[underlankers]

He gets shot for being black by a cop who doesn't like him and the same people reflexively defend the right of the State to kill people at will.

[sandwichwarrior]

I find it ironic that the people who claim to be dubious about said right are invariably the ones most eager to see it exercised.

I think you doth protest too much.

[luvdovz]

I'm beginning to think this whole thing is fucked up beyond repair. Decades have passed, and you'd think racism must've become history by now - and yet...