Something to do with "trickle down" is my only guess. I've heard that someone companies are finding out the hard way that the money that is saved overseas mostly stays in their respective countries. I can't for the life of me repeat what I heard verbatim but all I know is that outsourcing has been one of the biggest contributing factors to the recession. People, skilled educated people, are seeing their jobs move elsewhere. It's happened to my own little brother, who's an excellent IT but is having so much trouble getting another job after L3 laid him off. Does anyone know how freaking angry that makes me?
BTW, I really don't see how this post warrants a privilege check, why the defensiveness? O.o
BTW, I really don't see how this post warrants a privilege check, why the defensiveness?
Guilt, I guess. According to 'demographics' I should be a full out Tea Bagger. So technically, I'm a traitor, according to 'them'. And those on the other side of the fence are often dismissive of my points because of my gender, race and economic position.
I guess people can't even talk about the far right without somehow bringing up the Patriarchy or racism (sigh)
What gender, race, and economic position are you that prompts that reaction?
I went over that in my opening comment.
I've seen no dearth of white male liberals or progressives. are you implying I am not progressive because of my race and gender or some generalization about the population of whites or males who may have other than right wing politics?
Tell me you didn't just do to me what you claim others do to you.
ah. Well, see, what I think is that the country has to have a fundamental change in measuring success on corporate terms. Using layoffs to raise profits shouldn't be praised, it should be condemned. Companies should be looking to balance shareholder benefits with employee benefits. And CEO salaries should be capped at much much lower than where they're allowed to be now.
I see what you mean, but you are taking a view that profit is a finite and limited thing. That is, if you don't compete with the overseas industries, you will go out of business.
I think the problem is more with imports than cheaper labor. Let China make plates for China. Tariffs keep the rich at bay. What does it matter to you if they only make $30 billion, instead of $31 Billion, if it means 10,000 ordinary joes can feed their families?
I prefer the flat tax. The fair taxes too insidious. People would have no idea how much tax they're paying.
I would go so far as to eliminate withholding for the flat tax.
If people have to write a check to pay their taxes monthly or quarterly, or even yearly, they would be much more aware of how much tax they paid and how much it hurts and would become more politically active because of that.
ignorant southen white male US citizen with all kinds of 'privilieges'.
Was that someone here, or in a different community? Just wondering... I've stopped going to other communities where people bully and blame white men for all of their problems, and cite their own lack of "privilege" as something that gives them credibility. I hope this community doesn't go down that same route.
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BTW, I really don't see how this post warrants a privilege check, why the defensiveness? O.o
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Guilt, I guess. According to 'demographics' I should be a full out Tea Bagger. So technically, I'm a traitor, according to 'them'. And those on the other side of the fence are often dismissive of my points because of my gender, race and economic position.
I guess people can't even talk about the far right without somehow bringing up the Patriarchy or racism (sigh)
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What gender, race, and economic position are you that prompts that reaction?
I've seen no dearth of white male liberals or progressives.
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I went over that in my opening comment.
I've seen no dearth of white male liberals or progressives. are you implying I am not progressive because of my race and gender or some generalization about the population of whites or males who may have other than right wing politics?
Tell me you didn't just do to me what you claim others do to you.
Now ,about that tax break....
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2. By what rationale could such a tax break be enacted, that could be sold as something better for the country than no tax break?
3. your confusion confirms my opening comment LOL
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Until, of course, market forces are heralded as the ultimate moral arbiter. Then everything profitable is good, by definition!
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I think the problem is more with imports than cheaper labor. Let China make plates for China. Tariffs keep the rich at bay. What does it matter to you if they only make $30 billion, instead of $31 Billion, if it means 10,000 ordinary joes can feed their families?
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It sure does, but just not in the way you meant.
Heh.
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I would go so far as to eliminate withholding for the flat tax.
If people have to write a check to pay their taxes monthly or quarterly, or even yearly, they would be much more aware of how much tax they paid and how much it hurts and would become more politically active because of that.
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Was that someone here, or in a different community? Just wondering... I've stopped going to other communities where people bully and blame white men for all of their problems, and cite their own lack of "privilege" as something that gives them credibility. I hope this community doesn't go down that same route.
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No one in this community has because I choose more carefully what communities I put myself 'out there' for unwarranted attacks.
blackfolk, sf_drama, ONTD, conservatism...each of those places has sharpies lurking under stairwells, attacking out of nowhere, often cross-community.
One of the reasons this is my No 1 interacting community on LJ: there are simply too many international members to all have any one groupthink.
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Wait... no... it's actually the opposite of that thing.
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