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rimpala August 26 2012, 18:47:03 UTC
Something to do with "trickle down" is my only guess. I've heard that someone companies are finding out the hard way that the money that is saved overseas mostly stays in their respective countries. I can't for the life of me repeat what I heard verbatim but all I know is that outsourcing has been one of the biggest contributing factors to the recession. People, skilled educated people, are seeing their jobs move elsewhere. It's happened to my own little brother, who's an excellent IT but is having so much trouble getting another job after L3 laid him off. Does anyone know how freaking angry that makes me?

BTW, I really don't see how this post warrants a privilege check, why the defensiveness? O.o

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rick_day August 26 2012, 18:56:21 UTC
BTW, I really don't see how this post warrants a privilege check, why the defensiveness?

Guilt, I guess. According to 'demographics' I should be a full out Tea Bagger. So technically, I'm a traitor, according to 'them'. And those on the other side of the fence are often dismissive of my points because of my gender, race and economic position.

I guess people can't even talk about the far right without somehow bringing up the Patriarchy or racism (sigh)

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paft August 26 2012, 19:01:20 UTC
rd: And those on the other side of the fence are often dismissive of my points because of my gender, race and economic position.

What gender, race, and economic position are you that prompts that reaction?

I've seen no dearth of white male liberals or progressives.

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rick_day August 26 2012, 19:19:35 UTC
What gender, race, and economic position are you that prompts that reaction?

I went over that in my opening comment.

I've seen no dearth of white male liberals or progressives. are you implying I am not progressive because of my race and gender or some generalization about the population of whites or males who may have other than right wing politics?

Tell me you didn't just do to me what you claim others do to you.

Now ,about that tax break....

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paft August 26 2012, 19:27:10 UTC
paft: I went over that in my opening comment.

I know plenty of white male, even southern progressives.

Has someone here denounced you for simply being a white male southerner?

Paft: I've seen no dearth of white male liberals or progressives.
RD: are you implying I am not progressive because of my race and gender or some generalization about the population of whites or males who may have other than right wing politics?

Uh, no I'm saying the exact opposite. "Dearth" means "lack of." I was saying I've seen no shortage of white male progressives. And I've known quite a few white male southern liberals.

RD: Tell me you didn't just do to me what you claim others do to you.

What is it I claim others have done to me?

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chron_job August 26 2012, 19:07:05 UTC
It's OK to be a middle aged white guy and not be a tea-bagger. Those uncomfortable feelings of class guilt just come from having a conscience not utterly stamped out by American Exceptionalism and the various tropes of sublimated other-hate.

Guilt is a completely legitimate emotion that spurs us to necessary action, in the same way that pain protects us from leaving our hands on a hot stove. People who have completely insulated themselves from guilt with politically constructed blinders are simply missing a useful functioning sense, in the same way that those who suffer congenital analgesia are. Both conditions can lead to terrible self-damage.

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sophia_sadek August 27 2012, 17:00:29 UTC
Trickle down? Does that have something to do with golden showers?

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rimpala August 28 2012, 03:59:57 UTC
You know what? I wish kind of it was :p

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allhatnocattle August 28 2012, 06:13:21 UTC

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