#701 on Forbes Richest list: Thank you, American Presidents!

Apr 02, 2012 09:14

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Top 701 richest person says thanks for the war on drugs and the on going prohibition! I have not created this movie i do not own the rights of it, all thx go to The Young Turk

How do you think the POTII, both past and present, will respond to this? Will they?

Notice...he didn't thank Carter. Not even cartel heads respect Carter!

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ext_318038 April 2 2012, 14:13:22 UTC
This is always the result of prohibition. This is by design. You can't have a police state without criminalizing behaviors people want to engage in.

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ext_318038 April 3 2012, 10:17:05 UTC
Initiation of aggression against people and trespass against their property.

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rimpala April 2 2012, 14:39:24 UTC
The term Young Turk is also slang for a rebellious youth, I'm guessing this was the original inspiration for the name. It's like, I'm sure Rod Stewart didn't have genocide in mind either.

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chron_job April 2 2012, 15:02:51 UTC
Damn you... beat me to it.

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sophia_sadek April 2 2012, 16:13:23 UTC
One of our students told a story about a grower he encountered behind bars. The other prisoners saw the man as a hero. The grower's stint in stir simply improved his level of underground connectivity.

Back when I was studying the works of Irenaeus, I was amused by his argument that vegetarians thumb their nose at the gifts of the divine with their personal dietary restrictions. This caused me to draw the next logical conclusion: abstaining from herbal intoxicants constitutes the same kind of sacrilege.

Any form of prohibition gives the lie to the idea that we live in a free society.

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the_rukh April 2 2012, 16:31:32 UTC
And hitmen are thankful murder is illegal. Its still not a good argument.

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a_new_machine April 2 2012, 16:35:35 UTC
Yep. The key would be pointing out that the ill prevented - some folks getting high - is a lot weaker a problem than the other problems caused by prohibition. Still, it is a good point for the argument that enforcement is futile.

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the_rukh April 2 2012, 18:31:07 UTC
That is a much better argument, sure. One could argue though that the point is more one.of not condoning such behavior and the social environment that creates. Of course then we need do get in to the utter dessication of our cultural environment by rampant consumerism and selfishness and the million other ills we suffer.

Also it is important to be a little more complex in our arguments because there are about a tnousand different issues and we dont wamt to be all baby/bathwater about it. Are we simply talking legalization? Which drugs? When and where? How much and how legal? Or just modifying the punishment, again for all the previous.questions? Or is this about executive picy involved in particular countries, or law enforcement resource management or what?

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rick_day April 3 2012, 14:20:29 UTC
As long as I can sell cannabis and E in my establishment legally, it's all good here :D

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rimpala April 2 2012, 17:19:14 UTC
Meh, I think at the very least weed should be regulated and not banned outright. I haven't been convinced that it's more dangerous then, say, alcohol or cigs.

Now for all you slippery-slope nuts out there I'm not saying give the stuff to a 3 year old or remove penalties for driving under the influence of it. Nor do I encourage harder drugs like shooting up on heroin. I'm talking regulation not probation.

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