One-winged deficit hawks

Feb 23, 2012 20:53

So, there's a new report [pdf] out on the budget plans of the various candidates. I think it can be pretty easily summed up in a simple chart:
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hikarugenji February 24 2012, 02:03:44 UTC
That's not particularly surprising. It's obvious that none of the candidates except Paul are really interested in deficit cutting. Their main goal, as usual, is to ensure that rich people can become even richer -- I hope this is because they honestly believe this is the best thing for everyone and not just because they're corrupt, but I probably shouldn't cling too strongly to that hope.

No plan to address the deficit and debt can be taken seriously if it doesn't deal with Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, and military spending. As far as taxes, I personally favor the "lower rates and close loopholes" approach, but even the straight Republican "cut taxes for rich people" would work if it were combined with serious proposals to deal with the big three.

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a_new_machine February 24 2012, 02:05:21 UTC
The thing is, at least with Santorum, he does plan to deal with SocSec and Medicare, by adopting the Ryan plan. The issue is he just cuts so many taxes so deeply on top of that, he ends up with this huge increase in debt overall.

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foolsguinea February 24 2012, 21:03:20 UTC
The Ryan plan has tax cuts to make sure it doesn't close the deficit.

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a_new_machine February 24 2012, 21:04:19 UTC
Yes, but IIRC Santorum has only adopted the Medicare/aid portions of the Ryan plan, substituting his own (larger) tax cuts for the rest of the budget proposal.

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the_rukh February 24 2012, 02:06:11 UTC
Don't you know the laffer curve apexes at -3?

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gunslnger February 24 2012, 02:36:54 UTC
You left out some pieces of info. For example, you left out that this was the estimate in the intermediate situation and is the estimate for 2021. You would have been better served using the Debt Impact(% of GDP) numbers, which is:
Gingrich=30%, Paul=-9%, Romney=1%, and Santorum=19%.

Also, where did you get the estimate for Obama? I didn't see it in there (although I didn't read all of it).

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a_new_machine February 24 2012, 02:40:07 UTC
Apologies, I got it from the story that linked me to the report, and didn't notice that it wasn't in there. It's from this Atlantic piece. I'll edit to add that in. It's a good article in that it responds to a lot of the criticisms of the Obama numbers, to boot.

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fizzyland February 24 2012, 02:43:37 UTC
I'll believe conservatives are fiscal conservatives when they start showing the willingness to cut our ridiculously large and poorly-accounted military budget.

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rimpala February 24 2012, 03:16:27 UTC
Hahaha has anyone even brought that up yet?

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hikarugenji February 24 2012, 03:31:37 UTC
Only Paul. The rest of them are too busy preparing to start a new war with Iran.

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telemann February 24 2012, 04:00:35 UTC
And he got booed last night for talking about the insane amounts of money we have, but you know there are times Ron Paul like many libertarians his age just come across eccentric and really crotchety--- just like Ross Perot.

Remember him?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4266/saturday-night-live-ross-perot-for-president

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soliloquy76 February 24 2012, 03:02:15 UTC
Gingrich's bar looks so grandiose.

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a_new_machine February 24 2012, 03:02:50 UTC
It's fundamentally superior.

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rimpala February 24 2012, 04:52:37 UTC
Just taking off like a red rocket.

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existentme February 24 2012, 23:07:01 UTC
Oh man...

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