The quake that's still shaking the Eastern world

Dec 08, 2011 22:12

Zdravstvuyte, moi tovarischi greetings, my comrades! Do you know what date it is today? December 8, 1991. Does it speak anything to you? No? Well... Look at this map.


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highly recommended, geopolitics, russia, history, east europe

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rick_day December 8 2011, 20:23:30 UTC
Well the background music helped, but it was too short to finish the read. Interesting read. Thanks for taking time.

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htpcl December 8 2011, 20:36:28 UTC
You could use this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_A7Hu0uKNw&feature=BFa&list=PL23E2275467DE0013&lf=results_main
The songs are loading one after another. :-)

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airiefairie December 8 2011, 20:43:10 UTC
This music is hypnotic.

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htpcl December 8 2011, 20:45:55 UTC
A world class choir performing folklore that's many centuries old. What could possibly go wrong?

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telemann December 8 2011, 20:32:32 UTC
Gorby came out and said he thinks there should be a new vote; and international monitors have said there was significant fraud too. Putin for his part? Blames Hillary Clinton for everything. Ha.

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nairiporter December 8 2011, 23:53:02 UTC
Maybe Wikileaks knows something about Hillary's (non-)involvement.

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airiefairie December 8 2011, 20:38:21 UTC
Meanwhile, authoritarian leaders reign supreme throughout Central Asia, some of them have been there ever since 1991, and they wouldn't hesitate to take the most drastic measures to curb the rise of both democratic movements and Islamic tendencies in their predominantly Muslim, but staunchly secularist states.

I wonder when is the Central Asian spring going to come. And what will be needed for that to happen. Apparently these peoples are able to endure all sorts of hardships but at some point you just cannot take it any more and snap...

Yet another amazing article, thank you for this.

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malakh_abaddon December 8 2011, 20:48:51 UTC
Just wait, its coming in so many places.

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luzribeiro December 8 2011, 20:48:09 UTC
The Russian people deserve much better than what they have had for the last 1 (2?) centuries, let alone those other peoples around them.

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abomvubuso December 8 2011, 21:49:23 UTC
You might be on to something.

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nairiporter December 9 2011, 00:01:53 UTC
This is simply epic!

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In 1922 von Mises told the world this would eventually happen. montecristo December 8 2011, 21:11:26 UTC
Few people believed him. Even those who supposedly hated Communism for "moral reasons" had no faith in freedom.

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Re: In 1922 von Mises told the world this would eventually happen. htpcl December 8 2011, 21:15:42 UTC
I appreciate your knee-jerk trademark citation of Mises, but communism didn't collapse because of its ideological flaws or moral depravity. It was the huge economic and cultural internal discrepancies that eventually sank the USSR.

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Re: In 1922 von Mises told the world this would eventually happen. montecristo December 8 2011, 21:35:00 UTC
Yes, these "economic discrepancies" were inevitable. Socialism cannot calculate as it rests upon a fundamentally false premise.

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Re: In 1922 von Mises told the world this would eventually happen. htpcl December 8 2011, 21:45:15 UTC
Sure, because it's one extreme form of an economic and social system. What makes you so assured that its extreme opposite is devoid of the same fundamental flaws?

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