This is going nowhere a nice place...

Jan 29, 2016 10:45

How to avoid being spat at, beaten, abused, or gang-raped by foreigners in your own country without being accused of having "looked for it" by "enticing" them, or prosecuted for trying to defend yourself?


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germany, offtopic, right wing, violence, immigration

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nairiporter January 29 2016, 19:17:55 UTC
It is the slowness of the authorities' reaction that has bugged people this much - and it is this slowness that stems from the fact that in Western society, there are certain institutions, procedures, checks and balances, and things are supposed to be happening in a certain order. As opposed to just one dictator making snap decisions at a whim. Perhaps Western society could try to speed up their reaction in situations as untypical as these, granted. That doesn't mean that reacting harshly, disproportionately and without thinking this through as thoroughly as possible, just for the sake of speed, is the better way to go.

Have some patience, is all I am saying. The whole machine will get into rhythm. The authorities will come up with the optimal response to this situation eventually - and if it does not, the public will correct them.

Having a Hitler is the easier option, I know. And the self-destructive one.

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abomvubuso January 30 2016, 07:43:23 UTC
dreamville_bg January 30 2016, 08:03:50 UTC
Good luck making them stop treating women like garbage through leaflets.

You see, this is exactly why the current approach is failing - because we fail to understand where these people are coming from. And where they come from, the only incentive that's fully understood is the stick. Even Aydah Ozoguz herself has said it:

“This isn’t about cultural misunderstanding but about extreme wrongdoing. You can’t respond to this with integration courses, but only with punishment and if necessary deportation.”

She must know. Her parents came exactly where these new migrants are coming from.

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abomvubuso January 30 2016, 08:06:58 UTC
Place all the cards on the table - that's what these "booklets" are about. They're not meant to "make" anybody do anything. They're doing what should've been done a long time ago - making the first step, namely: telling the migrants in clear terms what the rules of the place are, and follows if they break the rules. Isn't naming things with their names what you so eloquently insisted on?

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dreamville_bg January 30 2016, 08:08:36 UTC
Heh. Don't know about eloquently. :-)

"They're doing what should've been done a long time ago"

Exactly. Europe was shockingly unprepared for a thing everyone knew very well was coming. This proneness to blissful oblivion is self-destructive.

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