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fly_buggy_fly June 7 2011, 00:00:30 UTC
"The bossiness comes with being a prefect."

I totally read that as "came with being perfect."

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scarsofloki March 25 2013, 02:33:33 UTC
Bossy Sues are the most irritating of all, and not all prefects are bossy. I mean, in some cases it does come with the territory, but I think it also depends on the individual's personality and the unruliness of their House.

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szaleniec1000 March 25 2013, 11:43:57 UTC
I was a school prefect and I never lorded it over the other kids, and I'm not supposed to be this glorious specimen of all that's good about humanity.

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ext_639533 June 7 2011, 01:26:45 UTC
“It doesn’t hurt at all. Actually it’s the most wonderful feeling in the world, but only if it’s the right person and at the right time in your life. That means never before fifteen young lady. That’s the wizard age of consent.” Hermione hoped Caitlin would be older."

Okay, maybe I'm way over thinking this (which I'm known to do) but... What about homosexuals? Or asexual? Or casual sex? It's only good, then, if it's with your one true love? This wouldn't have bother HALF as much, if the whole fic was urging people to be open-minded. This kind of stuff tends to rub me the wrong way.

And Caitlin freaks me out. She's acting way too mature. One could argue that, because of her sexual assault, Caitlin had developed almost disturbing sexual maturity. But, because it's never treated as disturbing or out of place, it becomes really creepy. Does the author really think that eleven-year-old think and talk this way?

(Sorry, long post.)

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fly_buggy_fly June 7 2011, 01:59:07 UTC
Yeah, I was going to comment on that and knew I was forgetting something! If Hermione is being so honest with Caitlin, shouldn't she be telling her that there's almost always some pain with the initial penetration? Even if it is your TWU LUV, it's going to be uncomfortable until you get the rhythm right and get used to each other.

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scarsofloki March 25 2013, 02:36:27 UTC
and yet a few installations later and Hermione's totally willing to let her thirteen-year-old Sue-daughter have sex. Fail.

Also, er... Hermione didn't mention anything against homosexuals. She just said "the right person and the right time in your life". I do agree that it's still physically painful either way, but one's body is much more inclined to be relaxed with someone they trust. And somehow, this fic tends to completely over look asexuals. I have a couple friends who are asexual and in a loving relationship and this makes me sad :(

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szaleniec1000 June 7 2011, 12:36:30 UTC
Everyone who's a nudist in this fic is conventionally attractive or set to grow up to be conventionally attractive. The more the author goes on about how nudity has nothing to do with sex the more desperate he seems to convince us of that.

I like and use "discomfited" and "perchance" but they look out of place in dialogue in a Harry Potter fic. Even considering it's Hermione, not that the author really distinguishes the different characters' voices. As if Hermione, even speaking off the cuff, would use "and I" in the objective case. And like any character in the fic, with the possible exception of Sam because she's American, would use "gotten". I mean really.

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amideadn0w June 7 2011, 12:33:03 UTC
No pain?? I guess she forgot to tell her daughter what happens when you lose your virginity. No pain my great aunt Cecile ( ... )

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szaleniec1000 June 7 2011, 13:12:05 UTC
Sex ed when I was 11 was limited to how is babby formed (which everyone in the class had an approximate idea of already) and what to expect when puberty starts, which is fair enough.

....I'm starting to wonder what kind of past this author has, if he chose to write this...unique little masterpiece.

The little glimpses the fic gives us of how his mind works are like staring into an abyss. The subtext of how he shut down the Hermione/Neville relationship horrified me more than anything I've ever seen in fanfic, and I've read Agony in Pink, Celebrian and Cloud Mows the Lawn.

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scarsofloki March 25 2013, 02:41:58 UTC
It's not just the first time that's painful, either. Size compatibilities need to be taken into account, and not everyone's very keen on communication their first time in, you know, like "You're going too rough", because they're afraid of hurting the other one's feelings or whatever.

Also, I like your drinking game. It'll give me something to do next time I'm, like, really depressed.

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szaleniec1000 March 25 2013, 02:59:29 UTC
I ended up actually writing the Hogwarts Exposed drinking game.

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sickbritkid2 June 11 2011, 06:26:43 UTC
"The subtext of how he shut down the Hermione/Neville relationship horrified me more than anything I've ever seen in fanfic ( ... )

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sickbritkid2 June 11 2011, 06:28:34 UTC
Wow, that was a rant...

My point was, I'd like to know your analysis on that whole instance, as I'm not really getting the "staring into the abyss" part and how that scene horrified you as much as it did...

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szaleniec1000 June 11 2011, 10:39:30 UTC
I pretty much covered it. Of all the ways he could have stopped Hermione from hooking up with Neville, he chose that. And was incredibly evasive when asked exactly why he'd done it. Now it could just be his taste for poorly-done and tasteless melodrama, but the impression I got was that he actually thinks that it takes something like that to justify a woman rejecting a man's advances.

Agreed on the Neville appreciation. That scene would have disturbed and annoyed me whoever was involved, but Neville is one of my favourite characters. As is Hermione, and I've made my opinion on what's happened to her quite clear here and on TVTropes. The next chapter gets even worse for her.

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sickbritkid2 June 12 2011, 00:07:23 UTC
That's something that always irked me about Hogwarts Exposed:

The author goes on and on about how awesome and badass Jamie and Hermione are(both in dialogue and out) and yet at the same time, the two most prominent females in this series, to quote Das_Mervin, "bow down to the almighty cock" like "proper" women(proper being from Neil's point of view) despite this...

It's like Neil was aiming for making Hermione and Jamie into badass "liberation FTW" women but still tried to make them "know their place."

It's this disgusting characterization that's really teed me off that Neil actually DEVELOPED A FANBASE for this fanfiction series and the fact that there continues to be a fool on Tropes defending this fanfic to the death...

I'd make an Inheritance comparison, but I actually like Inheritance quite a bit.

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