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amazonvera June 2 2007, 00:12:53 UTC
Exactly! You'd think that being poor with a bunch of kids and a welfare check that doesn't begin to get you anywhere close to the poverty line would be it's own negative incentive, but apparently all of that is a peice of cake. It will only be bad enough to get through to them if we let their kids starve. That'll work!

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ms_daisy_cutter June 2 2007, 03:11:02 UTC
So, are you saying it's okay for some bint on welfare to pop out seven rugrats by the time she's 20, simply because life on welfare isn't cushy?

IMHO, that shit should be discouraged.

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amazonvera June 2 2007, 03:35:08 UTC
Yes, that's exactly what I said, I totally approve of women having a child a year starting at puberty and raising them in poverty.

Or maybe I was saying that implying that women do that because of a lack of sufficient negative consequences is a bit silly.

One of the two, though.

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bananainpyjamas June 1 2007, 22:03:23 UTC
Libertarians want the government to stay out of people's lives by forcing those it deems unfit to be parents onto mandatory birth control. Where's that, "The More You Know" picture when you need it...

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l_a_d_y_l_o_v_e June 1 2007, 22:15:13 UTC

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bananainpyjamas June 1 2007, 22:31:24 UTC
Yay! :D

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sister_anne June 2 2007, 01:39:12 UTC
no they don't. that is not libertarianism at all.

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numbedtoe June 1 2007, 22:03:30 UTC
I wonder what you'd get if you could cross species these libertarians and the batshit child free types. In a lab of course, as not to taint the batshit CF'er.

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bronxelf_ag001 June 2 2007, 02:09:21 UTC
It seems, you'd get...

Me.

And usually, I sound a lot more reasonable than the people there do- which is why I left the libertarianism comm a long time ago.

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anomie666 June 1 2007, 22:03:36 UTC
Unlike the previous post here dealing with the libertarian community, this indeed is filled with stupid.

Libertarians are "most deserving of having kids" is about a dumb as it gets.

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morpheus0013 June 1 2007, 22:04:53 UTC
"...[A poor couple has] 7 kids who would likely not have been born, but thanks to distorted incentive structures, some moron can have 7 kids by different fathers before she turns 21.

Someone needs a lesson in how fraternal twins are conceived. It figures that moron reads Fark.

When I read that article, I knew it wouldn't be long before related wank made it here in some fashion. Yes, it's possible she has 7 kids by 4 different fathers, but there's no indication in the article of how many fathers are involved. And I'm starting to wonder if the reporter who thought it was a good idea to highlight this family on welfare wasn't deliberate in his wording of "latest set of twins."

How precisely does one's socio-political philosophy relate to how much one "deserves" to have kids, again?

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bananainpyjamas June 1 2007, 22:06:40 UTC
Because internet libertarians are the only ones willing to accept responsibility for their kids. Duh!

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morpheus0013 June 1 2007, 22:08:25 UTC
I have a fair amount of sympathy for actual libertarians. I don't agree with them, but I look at internet libertarians and can't but think that it has to be hard to have THAT be the face of your opinion.

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tehsp0rk June 1 2007, 23:07:26 UTC
I'm sure as hell never admitting to having libertarian leanings online anymore. Except I just did. Oops. Not that I ever did subscribe fully to the standard libertarian beliefs on economics, I was and am more focused on civil liberty. Seeing all this blatantly classist crap is just proving to me that people who've been saying it's really a white middle/upper class thing are right.

Ahh, to go back to the days BEFORE I started meeting other people who went under that label.

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