I used the word "Oriental" as a freshman in college, in front of my friend Na. She very gently corrected me and explained that "Oriental" was offensive, and that "Asian" was a better term. (She also made it a point to state that she was SOUTH Korean, although at that time, I didn't really understand why she would do so.)
What a word's literal, original definition is does not necessarily equal what it's come to mean. Ergo, if a word was not originally offensive, that does not mean it is not offensive now.
You'd think someone with such a stunning grasp of Latin would understand more about language in general.
Yeah, I had a South Korean roommate last year who was always insisting on being called South Korean, which I eventually started doing.
You'd think someone with such a stunning grasp of Latin would understand more about language in general. I'm majoring in foreign languages, and I am constantly amazed by how many people don't. Even those who are supposed to be studying languages and are supposed to give a damn about this sort of thing, I mean.
asian people, let ME tell YOU what you should find offensive. you have no right to be offended unless you check with ME first. i am the keeper of the offensive stuff library and oriental is not in there.
I have to admit, I've been wondering about the term "Oriental." Is there an acceptable alternative? "Asian" seems too broad, it could describe a huge variety of nationalities.
"Asian" was what I was told was the preferred term (this was 12 years ago, mind you.) Using the specific country would be fine if you knew it as well, I imagine.
Words mean different things in different places. I reckon the OP must come from near where I live (somewhere in the UK), as we use the same terms. Asian = Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi. Oriental = Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese etc
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Because people only say "Oriental" cos they're not sure what else to say. I think people tend to say "Chinese" just because most of the... ahem... people of Pacific rim origin where I live are Chinese (or BBC, which I think is meant to be slyly ironic). So you run less risk of being OMG OFFENSIVE!
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What a word's literal, original definition is does not necessarily equal what it's come to mean. Ergo, if a word was not originally offensive, that does not mean it is not offensive now.
You'd think someone with such a stunning grasp of Latin would understand more about language in general.
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You'd think someone with such a stunning grasp of Latin would understand more about language in general.
I'm majoring in foreign languages, and I am constantly amazed by how many people don't. Even those who are supposed to be studying languages and are supposed to give a damn about this sort of thing, I mean.
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I have to admit, I've been wondering about the term "Oriental." Is there an acceptable alternative? "Asian" seems too broad, it could describe a huge variety of nationalities.
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Because people only say "Oriental" cos they're not sure what else to say. I think people tend to say "Chinese" just because most of the... ahem... people of Pacific rim origin where I live are Chinese (or BBC, which I think is meant to be slyly ironic). So you run less risk of being OMG OFFENSIVE!
I'm a nice white person. Hai, so desu ne.
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