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case against polgarawolf

May 21, 2011 02:23

On the 19th of April 2011 dshael reported a possible case of plagiarism involving the Doctor Who fandom. The original report can be found here

The original report related to a story posted by polgarawolf called 'When the Doctor Met the Captain: Ten Times' a Dr Who/Torchwood story which was posted on fanfiction.net here and had a number of passages being similar ( Read more... )

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She's done it again! lindenharp July 18 2011, 03:00:51 UTC

I've been skimming new chapters of PW's current Star Wars epic, Becoming Love: I, In You: The Rise of the Clone Wars. In chapter 26, I found something suspicious in a sex scene. It was of higher quality than the rest of the writing, and it used the word ballocks -- an unusual alternative spelling of bollocks. A little Googling proved that much of the scene was taken from the published novel Naamah's Kiss by Jacqueline Carey, though it had been changed from first person to third person.

I have screencapped the original here.

A few of the significant lines:

When he spread my thighs wide and lapped at the slick crease between them, my hips jerked clean off the bed, my fists knotting in his hair.

and

Time? What was time? That night, it was measured in the broad, insistent strokes of his tongue, driving me to pinnacles I hadn't known existed. I dissolved beneath it, melting with pleasure.

PW's version:

She dreamed that Anakin came to her bed that night, and that he completely undid her ( ... )

There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now hoshiko_2000 July 19 2011, 09:41:07 UTC

....................................

She is insane 0.0. She must be insane. There are just no words.....

Now let's just strap ourselves in and brace ourselves for the next round of baawwing, lame excuses, threats and accusations. Yay.

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now lindenharp July 19 2011, 19:36:49 UTC

Will there be a next round? I just added the information for completeness sake. And I posted a review in the Pit to let her know that her theft hasn't gone undetected. I do not intend to post anything on her LJ or engage her directly.

Unless Jacqueline Carey intends to take steps, it's just business as usual, AFAIK.

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now hoshiko_2000 July 20 2011, 15:11:38 UTC

I have a feeling that PW is probably trolling us. And she definitely won't be happy to see that we have added more 'bullshit' to our 'shite thread'. And in any case, I doubt she will be best pleased to see your review. Knowing PW, she was probably thinking that after the case review was posted, the groups business with her would be done and dusted. And so I think she'll be incredibly pissed off when she sees her new peice of plaigersim has been reported.

But seriously, do you think that the plaigerised excerpts could be coming from her beta afterall? Because I don't get how anyone, not even Polgarawolf, could be stupid enough to continue plaigerising when she's aware her work is being monitered. It's just bizarre.

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now yamx July 20 2011, 15:26:40 UTC

No, I don't think so. She has repeatedly said her beta never gave her any exact passages, just ideas. And she doesn't strike me as the type who'd lie to protect her beta. More the "do anything to put the blame on someone else"-type. (Remember, during the last round, she actually accused her victims of having plagiarized from her, even though their fics were years older.)

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now hoshiko_2000 July 20 2011, 15:35:43 UTC

That's true. It she's too much of a coward to have the balls to admit to what she's done and take her fics down, then I doubt she'd waste even a minute protecting her friend. It's just that I just can't understand it! WHY would you plaigerise AGAIN when you know you are being monitered?! I would have thought that even she isn't that stupid. Is this some kind of bizarre kind of plea for attention or something? Or does she just not believe that what she is doing is plaigerism since she 'changes' the excerpts she plaigerises, and this is some kind of 'screw you!' stand? But even so, you wouldn't think it would be worth risking the trouble. I'm just....completely confused *~*.

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now yamx July 20 2011, 15:42:48 UTC

Trouble? What trouble? Nothing is happening except a few reviews calling her out, and she probably gets off on the righteous anger those make her feel, seeing how she's all innocent and we're cyberbullies.

I think she may genuinely have talked herself into believing that she's not plagiarizing. HOW she did that, I do not know.

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now hoshiko_2000 July 20 2011, 15:52:12 UTC

Having plaigerised before but being unaware that what she is doing counts as plaigerism (since she changes the excerpts she copies)? And then, when informed of it, refusing to admit even to her self that she has done something wrong, and continueing to do it out of defience since she is doing 'nothing wrong'? And in any case, her RL probs rid her of responsibility for it anyway.

And yeah, I wish there was more that could be done to tackle people like her. FF.net is a complete waste of space when it comes to reporting plaigerism, as are most other sites T_T.

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now lindenharp July 23 2011, 09:04:47 UTC

'I think she may genuinely have talked herself into believing that she's not plagiarizing. HOW she did that, I do not know.'

That's exactly what I was about to say. Having looked at her comments for a while now, I really think she believes she's doing nothing wrong. Maybe because it's fan fiction, who knows. But someone else's work is still someone else's work, fan fiction or not.

But then again, nobody who thinks themselves to be innocent is THAT defensive.

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now hoshiko_2000 July 24 2011, 14:19:09 UTC

'But then again, nobody who thinks themselves to be innocent is THAT defensive.'

It's probably because she doesn't even want to admit it to herself. Her extreme defensivenss is probably part of her reafirming to *herself* that she has done nothing wrong.

Re: There is no icon that can show the expression on my face right now lindenharp July 20 2011, 15:52:12 UTC

I have no idea if she's monitoring S_P, and I really don't care. I assume she's seeing the reviews, and I hope they are causing her frustration. Unlike the comments on her LJ, reviews can't be deleted from ff.net by the recipient. She can report the reviews for abuse, but then she runs the risk of an administrator deleting her stories instead.

I don't think her beta is responsible. I think this is a case of weapons-grade denial.

Re: She's done it again! lindenharp July 23 2011, 01:54:22 UTC

I received a response from Jacqueline Carey. She thinks it's best to let the fanfic community police its own.

Re: She's done it again! archylou July 23 2011, 05:13:25 UTC

I only just received notification on this entry, I will add this new case to the extensive list of everything thus far.
At this stage it doesn't appear polgarawolf will stop, I will discuss with my fellow mods for their advice as to anything else that can be done to prevent further instances.

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