Thank you Ben Affleck

Nov 12, 2008 15:14

I had no idea who Keith Olbermann really was, but this rant about Prop 8 has made me an instant fan:

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ps. All y'all blaming black people for this mess can kiss my black @ss. Can you imagine this bill getting anywhere under a McCain administration? Yeah, I know you're mad and you need someone to blame, just keep that racist crap to yourselves ( Read more... )

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justdropit November 13 2008, 02:33:55 UTC
OH, I love this video. I've watched it four or five times already. My favorite part is when he says "This is the only world we've got and the other guy counts too."

And who's blaming black people for Prop 8? Everyone knows it's the Mormons that did it.

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stickykeys633 November 14 2008, 15:56:57 UTC
Hee! I completely did not get this comment! I was like, "when did Jen talk about Mormons?" ;)

But yeah, there's this whole weird thing where people are blaming all the extra black people who voted for Obama for prop 8 not passing. And one on hand, shut up, and on the other hand, guess now you might realize there are black people out voting now, huh?

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ncog001 November 13 2008, 17:24:53 UTC
Wait, you don't know my boy Keith??

Click this when you get a chance. It's old now, but it gave me goosebumps when I first saw it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-P-rBQnKHk&eurl=http://lj-toys.com/?journalid=449905&moduleid=1008&preview=&auth_token=sessionless:1223571600:embedcontent

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stickykeys633 November 14 2008, 15:58:44 UTC
Of freaking COURSE I missed your call. If it makes you feel any better I was in the shower soaping up and thinking about... well, ;)

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ext_43007 November 14 2008, 09:37:01 UTC
As a side-bar what I love is that some people (not you) are apparently shocked out of the liberal boots by the fact that some gay people are racist and want somehow to blame me for that. Like, no. Stop trying to get my white guilt peanut butter in my gay pride chocolate thank you very much.

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stickykeys633 November 14 2008, 15:51:01 UTC
I have a friend now who is so unbelievably racist, but thinks it's hilarious and that he can get away with saying spic and nigger because he's gay.

He was really offended when I slapped him one night, but he's never said either in front of me since then.

I think I actually wrote something about that... along of the lines of "YOU'RE STILL RICH WHITE MEN!" or some such? Ahh yes, it was after this Happy Nigger Day post on MLK Jr Day. Good times, heh.

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ext_43007 November 14 2008, 18:07:49 UTC
Yeah I think you tried to hook me up with him once... Or linked me to his blog and said he was cute. Which amounts to the same thing.

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yeah, pretty much stickykeys633 November 14 2008, 18:20:20 UTC
I'm completely shameless when it comes to cuteness. The friend I have was actually an IRL friend and not R. He's totally better than that. Also, we totally internet hugged it out so it was okay.

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quinacridones November 14 2008, 15:20:54 UTC
as long as you continue to realize there's nothing Christian about the actions these so called Jesus lovers are taking.

I've been thinking a bit about Christian history, and learned some things that really knocked my unschooled ass down. And I have to disagree with that part of the statement. I think Jesus' teachings and Christianity are two separate things. So I think you can display hatefulness and that action can still be considered Christian. Christianity is about doctrine that people have shaped (beginning with St. Paul), and that doctrine determines how we interpret his teachings and even what is considered to be his teachers. The good and the bad in people are intertwined and it's the same with religion.

I used to try and separate myself from the "bad" Christians like oh, they're not real Christians, but the fact of the matter is that they are. Many Christians who have done terrible, un-Jesuslike things have also been important in shaping Christian beliefs. If we vote them off the island and they take their stuff with them, ( ... )

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stickykeys633 November 14 2008, 15:43:28 UTC
I'm going to respectfully yet vehemently disagree. We've turned Christianity from the simple concept of being "Christ-like" to being a community of people doing whatever they want as long as they claim to believe in God ( ... )

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quinacridones November 14 2008, 17:45:23 UTC
Some of the actions taken against gays are completely anti-Biblical and in direct contradiction with God's word.
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God says to do nothing more outside of prayer. He's the one who takes care of judging sinners (as it were), not us.

The thing here is, that you can do nothing explicitly hateful and still encourage intolerance and injustice. Evil works far more effectively through inertia and self-interest and avoidance of discomfort than actual hate.

You can follow Jesus' teachings and not be a Christian, but you CANNOT claim to be Christian and not follow Jesus' teachings. One is an act of influence and interpretation and one is a vow that you've taken to live your life in a way that is Holy and strives for perfection.I guess our difference is how we classify Christians and why. How does one determine that you're living a holy life? Is wishing people no harm, praying faithfully, following the personal morals you feel to be God's Law, good enough in a world that demands actual sacrifice and work to combat injustice? Can you ( ... )

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stickykeys633 November 14 2008, 18:18:08 UTC
The thing here is, that you can do nothing explicitly hateful and still encourage intolerance and injustice. Evil works far more effectively through inertia and self-interest and avoidance of discomfort than actual hate.

I understand what you mean, but I don't know. I think this is one of the cases where apathy (eg not voting, not protesting, not hating) is okay. Though, if that same inertia involves not schooling others about their actions then it can be a bad thing. I think there are different degrees of involvement there.

Can you emulate Jesus' example, only enough to be a nice person and comfortable, and still call that a holy life?I think the important phrase here is "only enough". We are to STRIVE daily to live Holy and striving means endlessly working to adhere to God's word. Everything we need is located in the book of life and as long as we are mindful of it in our daily walk then that constitutes as striving to live Holy ( ... )

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