#98 - a honc worth fighting for

Feb 06, 2013 07:07

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Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 21 2013, 01:29:03 UTC
What has meme read/viewed/listened to lately?

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 25 2013, 17:09:03 UTC
da

ngl, "new kink meme round" time is my favorite time of the month.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 25 2013, 11:50:22 UTC
I'm halfway through Point Pleasant, (D/C, AU, horror/mystery/romance) that's been recced all over the place. I'm really enjoying the horror aspect and the writing is nifty, which makes it all the more frustrating that Castiel is completely unrecognisable. He's just some other guy with the name pasted on. It wouldn't be as much a problem if everything else weren't satisfying.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/542794

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 25 2013, 14:03:46 UTC
That's exactly how I felt about it. It's really well written and although Dean is obviously different, he is still recognisable as Dean. Castiel, on the other hand, is an OC with Castiel's name. He is a nice OC, interesting and well-developed, but he is not Castiel. I wish they had posted it as Dean/OC.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 26 2013, 02:28:40 UTC
ayrt

I don't think I would've read it if it was Dean/OC, so I'm a little torn about that. It's just, this is a writer with talent, so I'm wondering if keeping Cas somewhat recognisable is harder than it looks.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 26 2013, 02:35:53 UTC
da

I haven't read this particular fic, but after being critical of head-pastede-on Castiel in human AUs for ages, I've written of one, and found it DAMNED difficult to keep him recognizable. He operates within such a narrow scope on the show that I found it challenging both to extrapolate that out into a character who has to care about things like rent, and to then make those extrapolations feel relevant to the core Castiel stuff.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 26 2013, 02:44:59 UTC
Trying to extrapolate Castiel's choices would be damn difficult even in non-AU, I'd think. The character has changed quite starkly from season to season, and some things I personally thought would be OOC have turned out to be canonically IC. And yet, he has a distinct "voice" that is recognisable, though sometimes I wonder if that's evidence of consistency in writing (ahahaha) or how Misha sells it.

Anyway, in AU fics, extrapolating new things - yes, difficult - but I'dve thought it would easier to spot things that shouldn't be there, such as Castiel swearing and taking the Lord's name in vain casually (which is among the things that happens in Point Pleasant to through me out).

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 26 2013, 02:45:41 UTC
SA

*throw, not through

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 27 2013, 10:30:02 UTC
SA

Finally finished! I have no regrets, though some things that made me cranky:

- This characterization if fic would've been tremendously improved if Castiel took Raziel's role (the original angel character, who stands out all the more because they're the only original character in a huge ensemble FPF cast) and another character took Castiel's. Perhaps Victor, who is similarly an authority figure with the issues that come along with it, though that would've required some tweaking on some of the more emotional parts.

- Rufus as the Mayor pissed me off. I couldn't see any good reason why he had to be the Bible-thumping conspiracy-keeping skeptic bureaucrat, when it could've been, say, Zachariah.

- After the main plot is resolved with the Mothman, I was mentally winding down, only to find, holy shit, there's a whole fucking chapter to go. The story completely lost my interest at that point, I was just no longer invested.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 27 2013, 10:33:53 UTC
I remember scrolling through the sex scenes in that fic. They were all LOOOOONG and didn't seem to be adding anything, so I started skipping past them. Multiple pages each time. I'm sure that story didn't need to be anywhere near as long as it was.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 27 2013, 10:36:47 UTC
ayrt

Oh yeah, I skimmed through all the sex scenes after the first one. I usually read them because of the build-up, and there's sometimes emotional things or introspection going on in between, but the ones in this were pretty much focused on the Tab A into Slot B -- which is fine, but with a fic this long and a plot that's happening I want to find out what happens.

Maybe it's a serialized fic? That would explain the wonky pacing.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 27 2013, 10:45:54 UTC
ITA about Raziel and Castiel. It was my exact thought when he was revealed. It would have fit perfectly. And Victor in Castiel's place is also a perfect fit. The part fits Victor perfectly.

I didn't understand why they had to mangle Rufus' character either. There is no shortage of self-righteous characters on SPN to chose from. Zachariah would have been perfect. Or maybe Raphael.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 27 2013, 17:43:04 UTC
na

I read this a couple of days ago, but didn't go around to posting my reactions until I saw this one, because it's so close to my own. :)

YES on Castiel vs. Raziel. The minute we learned the Mothman was a fallen angel, I started picturing how much I'd love the story with Castiel as the ancient, trapped being that scared the piss out of Dean and Sam as kids but was only ever trying to help. It still could've been a romance!

Also, once again, I encounter "two people are incapable of moving on." Dean's honesty and Castiel's rejection could have been emotionally devastating, to the point where it had a major effect on the people they became, without it being the sort of thing where they couldn't love anyone else ever (their past relationships could have failed for reasons other than I'm in love with my childhood BFF whom I haven't seen in years). I would've liked it better if it was the kind of thing where they'd at least thought that they'd moved on, but then they're faced with the other person and all the old hurt and guilt and ( ... )

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 27 2013, 17:55:28 UTC
da

I started picturing how much I'd love the story with Castiel as the ancient, trapped being that scared the piss out of Dean and Sam as kids but was only ever trying to help. It still could've been a romance!

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT. NOW I WANT THIS FIC DESPERATELY.

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 27 2013, 22:27:19 UTC
ayrt

Also, once again, I encounter "two people are incapable of moving on."

Are you the nonnie that mentioned this on meme before? Because when I encountered that in the fic I laughed and thought of you. I personally didn't find it as much a problem because I was more caught on how non-Castiel Castiel was.

I didn't mention it above, but I was annoyed with John's characterization as well. He had his soft parts, but his stubbornness leaned towards being too mean for me. (I do not like asshole John.) With that and Castiel's personalities shadowing the fic, I threw up my hands at Sam's lack of emotional connection to Dean because of course they're not close in this fic, naturally yes that is how the author deliberately isolates Dean with his emo. (For the record I enjoyed how Dean manifested and responded to that isolation.)

I missed most of the last chapter because I was just dragging the scroll bar down going WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S 28 FUCKING THOUSAND WORDS TO GO THE PLOTTY BITS ARE OVER ( ... )

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Re: Fanworks recently consumed anonymous February 28 2013, 01:06:23 UTC
ayrt ( ... )

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