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Jul 16, 2008 13:25

Oh, and while we're on the subject of OMFG REPRODUCTIVE BIOLOGY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY, the Department of Health and Human Services Monday released a proposal that allows any federal grant recipient to obstruct a woman's access to contraception. In order to do this, the Department is attempting to redefine many forms of contraception, the birth ( Read more... )

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abyssinia4077 July 16 2008, 17:41:57 UTC

The degree to which I want to take the *&#%ing religious right and sit them down in a science classroom until they listen and understand is just....AUGH

Between ID crap and this bullshit and and and....

They really are purposely trying to drive our country backwards.

*goes back to packing*

shutthef_up July 16 2008, 17:57:55 UTC

You know what depresses the fuck out of me?

Even if Obama is our next president? It will take freaking *years* to undo all the harm that's been done to our country. It's not like those religious nutjobs are going to go away. They're going to have *just* enough clout to bog things down.

Honest to God, I'm putting in a winter garden and preparing for a mini-apocalypse this winter. I don't care about how paranoid it makes me sound/look.

Ugh!

abyssinia4077 July 16 2008, 18:12:03 UTC

*nods*

That's the thing. When I think about every way our country has gotten messed up these past 7-8 years (education system, general infrastructure of roads and bridges, etc, economy, state budgets, wars, international opinion, health care, judicial system, civil rights, personal liberties, scientific research, environmental regulations) it staggers me trying to imagine what it will take to try to even get back to where we were.

What scares me more are people who honestly believe we are in better shape than we were 7-8 years ago.

It's much easier to destroy something than to build it back up again.

Doesn't mean I don't think we can. We've (as a species, as a country) come out of dark periods in the past and survived and ended up better for it. But it's not going to be cheap and it's not going to be easy.

shutthef_up July 16 2008, 18:27:06 UTC

I believe we can, too, but it's probably going to get worse before we start to see a turnaround.

Oh, I'm astonished at the seemingly intelligent people who subscribe to current policies. Former co-workers and even my landlord who occasionally send me right-wing bullshit emails. As much as I might like to try and correct them, I'm really not in a position to do so, so I just delete them and feel hopeless. They aren't stupid or bad people, just... argh!

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shutthef_up July 16 2008, 17:43:11 UTC

l;ksdjfasl;dkjfsao;dfjsaoi;sdufuoia;ut!!!!!!eleventy!!!!

That is all.

I wish I had that icon with the person pounding the keyboard until his arms fall out and his eyeballs bounce around.

splash_the_cat July 20 2008, 17:33:20 UTC

ha! Yes, I love that icon. SO appropriate for so many things.

aj July 16 2008, 17:45:30 UTC

I am... a little ill.

splash_the_cat July 20 2008, 17:32:34 UTC

Me too.

ultranos_fic July 16 2008, 17:47:07 UTC

I saw that. It was a pretty big struggle to refrain from smashing my head through the nearest wall. Because I hate, hate, HATE bloody pseudo-science being touted as the real thing and influencing policy decisions. Also, being "tolerant" of people's religious objections is a two-way street, morons.

Every time I think I have a good handle on when, exactly, we are living, something like this screws it up.

abyssinia4077 July 16 2008, 18:27:37 UTC

Because I hate, hate, HATE bloody pseudo-science being touted as the real thing and influencing policy decisions.

*nods emphatically*

Three-ish years ago when the Kansas state legislature voted to REWRITE THE DEFINITION OF SCIENCE so they could teach ID in schools, I spent a week running around ranting. Seriously, if you have to rewrite the basic definition of what science is (the one pretty much agreed upon by the world scientific theory for, oh, centuries) in order to make your idea a valid scientific theory, you are doing it wrong and looking like a damn, uneducated fool in the process.

ultranos_fic July 16 2008, 18:48:38 UTC

You know, I once actually sort of believed in ID. Okay, to be fair, I was 8 and enrolled in a Catholic school and was trying to come up with an explanation for why dinosaurs existed (because they DID and anyone who tried to tell me otherwise was WRONG) when I was being taught about Creation. So I thought about it long and hard and came up with a theory.

Imagine my surprise when years later, actual adults were touting and trying to teach in schools the same "theory" I came up with using flawed eight-year-old logic. So I, um, have a very, very derisive view of anyone who seriously believes in ID because I rejected that viewpoint as a child.

It's kind of funny, because there was a question on Ask MetaFilter just yesterday about how to convince people science is real. There were some really interesting things on the thread.

Of course, my response these days is to wish I had chlorine trifluoride to hand them and then run far in the other direction.

splash_the_cat July 20 2008, 17:31:46 UTC

The conscience clause movement in medicine enrages me to the point of violence. I'm sorry, your conscience does not trump my rights to appropriate healthcare.

mekosuchinae July 16 2008, 18:02:49 UTC

A pro-life group was protesting outside my local library yesterday afternoon and it was all I could do to keep from tearing out my hair at their signs. Planned Parenthood Steals Souls! Contraception Is Murder! Nice, guys.

I'm sure they're very happy to hear this is in the works.

moonshayde July 16 2008, 18:18:43 UTC

You know, I tend to be pro-life (OMG! A pro-lifer who is a feminist! How is that possible!) and this just irks me. I want to take those signs and ram them where the sun don't shine.

Obviously, I am stupid for thinking birth control can help control the number of abortions.

You are against abortion but don't let people find ways of not having children...

*is lost in the nonlogic loop*

mekosuchinae July 16 2008, 20:41:57 UTC

A pro-lifer who is a feminist! How is that possible!

I know! Whoever heard of such a thing? *g*

Obviously, I am stupid for thinking birth control can help control the number of abortions.

Yeah, you'd think contraception would, in conjunction with comprehensive sexual education, help reduce and control the number of abortions by way of giving those who do not wish to have children a means to, you know, avoid the matter altogether, but you'd be wrong. They just need to stop screwin'! Problem solved.

stargazercmc July 16 2008, 22:54:22 UTC

How does George Carlin put it? He says that he doesn't understand why fundamentalist Christians are against gays *and* abortions, because who have less abortions than gays? ;)

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