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abyssinia4077 July 16 2008, 17:41:57 UTC
The degree to which I want to take the *&#%ing religious right and sit them down in a science classroom until they listen and understand is just....AUGH

Between ID crap and this bullshit and and and....

They really are purposely trying to drive our country backwards.

*goes back to packing*

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shutthef_up July 16 2008, 17:57:55 UTC
You know what depresses the fuck out of me?

Even if Obama is our next president? It will take freaking *years* to undo all the harm that's been done to our country. It's not like those religious nutjobs are going to go away. They're going to have *just* enough clout to bog things down.

Honest to God, I'm putting in a winter garden and preparing for a mini-apocalypse this winter. I don't care about how paranoid it makes me sound/look.

Ugh!

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abyssinia4077 July 16 2008, 18:12:03 UTC
*nods*

That's the thing. When I think about every way our country has gotten messed up these past 7-8 years (education system, general infrastructure of roads and bridges, etc, economy, state budgets, wars, international opinion, health care, judicial system, civil rights, personal liberties, scientific research, environmental regulations) it staggers me trying to imagine what it will take to try to even get back to where we were.

What scares me more are people who honestly believe we are in better shape than we were 7-8 years ago.

It's much easier to destroy something than to build it back up again.

Doesn't mean I don't think we can. We've (as a species, as a country) come out of dark periods in the past and survived and ended up better for it. But it's not going to be cheap and it's not going to be easy.

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shutthef_up July 16 2008, 18:27:06 UTC
I believe we can, too, but it's probably going to get worse before we start to see a turnaround.

Oh, I'm astonished at the seemingly intelligent people who subscribe to current policies. Former co-workers and even my landlord who occasionally send me right-wing bullshit emails. As much as I might like to try and correct them, I'm really not in a position to do so, so I just delete them and feel hopeless. They aren't stupid or bad people, just... argh!

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holdouttrout July 16 2008, 18:23:15 UTC
I wish sitting the fundamentalists down and teaching them would actually help. The middle is what we need to work on--all the people who, like me, heard the bullshit from the far right and don't have any idea what kind of gray area exists in the study of reproductive health. (Or anything else, for that matter.)

It's just infuriating that we look down on women who wear scarves on their heads for not being liberated enough, but turn around and tell women that they "deserve it" when they're not treated well by men because they dress too provocatively. Oh, and by the way, you can't take charge of your own body, because you're obviously too emotional to make a rational decision. HELLO, PEOPLE!

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abyssinia4077 July 16 2008, 18:33:02 UTC
The thing is...you're probably right. But it doesn't make me not want to try. I don't want to make them use birth control if they don't want to, I don't want to make them have abortions, I don't want them to stop worshipping their god or attending their church or in any ways stop them from practicing their religion. But don't I have just as much right to follow my own religion and not have their religion/religious opinions forced upon me (and I know, I know, that you understand this I just...AUGH ( ... )

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holdouttrout July 16 2008, 18:51:08 UTC
Yeah, um...family planning is kind of important. That's all I have to say except GRR ARGH RAR!

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spiletta42 July 16 2008, 19:54:06 UTC
The religious right hasn't even read its Bible, they sure as heck can't be taught science.

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lyssie July 17 2008, 00:24:42 UTC
until they listen and understand is just....AUGH

Unfortunately, that will be never.

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splash_the_cat July 20 2008, 17:34:05 UTC
Can I beat them with a stick first? That might make them more malleable.

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