Epic Series Re-Read, Breaking Dawn Chapter 38

[rare_fandom]

( Last time in our Epic Re-Read, in case anybody needs refresher. And because it was good for me. )

And now onto

Comments

[ohwowlovely]

1. I'm wondering the same thing!
2. I'd probably want Benjamin, Kate, Alice, and that's it because I hate Bella's stupid power.
3. After a while I sort of figured there wasn't any, and I was dissapointed. The book was so boring as it is a little bit of fighting would've improved it.
5. As an adopted daughter that would've been better.
6. Nope! You were great :)

[shadow1905]

But by bringing Nessie into the story as Bella and Edward’s biological daughter, to me she invalidated the whole reason behind Jacob/Bella in the context of the story she was telling (that Bella loves Edward so much that she’ll choose him even though she has an attractive option of a family and normal life with Jacob).I don't have any specific problem with Nessie invalidating Bella's choice (since she was unexpected and a VERY difficult pregnancy). But I basically agree that the general problem with bringing Nessie into the story was that none of the fans expected it. Making the long-anticipated fourth book about a new character that no one expected is a huge gamble and it didn't pay off so well

[shadow1905]

5) Well, I approve of the Jacob/Nessie imprint mostly *because* Nessie is Bella's daughter, which has the corollary that he never would have imprinted if Bella chose him in "Eclipse" instead of Edward. I think everyone has a different idea of what the "point" of the choice in "Eclipse" was. To me, it was that Bella could have been happy with Jacob if she wasn't in love with Edward, that it was ONLY her love for Edward that makes B/J unfeasible, not any shortcoming of Jacob. If Jacob imprinted on ANYONE else, that would invalidate Bella's choice because she never could have been with Jacob if he was going to imprint on someone else. Yes, of course there is fic where he fights it off, but come on, this is Bella we're talking about. She was insecure enough with Edward's eternal, unalterable devotion. If Jacob was constantly fighting off a bond to another woman, Bella would collapse. I think the only way Bella could be with Jacob is if he didn't imprint. And now, we know he would not have imprinted, because the imprintee would never be

[kerame]

"My other reason for approving the imprint is that it gives Jacob time to get to know Nessie as a person and vice versa before they really fall in love."

Jacob was obsessed with Nessie the moment she left the womb. Just as with the B/E relationship, personality is immaterial. He's her slave for life. He's either so utterly brain-washed that he has no feelings of his own, or he's a creepy uncle, continually awaiting the moment when the object of his perverted affection comes of age.

"Jacob is still the exemplar of friendship-love, not love at first sight which he disapproves of. His free will is somewhat compromised, but that is true of any love affair." Jacob went from wanting to kill Nessie, to being instantaneously and slavishly devoted to her. Friendship develops over time. Love affairs do not cause a person to transform themselves into anything the other person wants or needs, unless the relationship is sick and twisted, which seems to be Meyer's idea of "true love

[shadow1905]

The fact that Jacob's desire to kill an innocent baby was overridden doesn't bother me too much. Now, as to the development of their relationship afterward, if Nessie was incompatible with Jacob then his being what she needs would bother me, but Meyer intends her to be so compatible with Jacob from the get-go that he's already what she needs and vice versa. She's far more compatible with him than any human woman. She can share in every aspect of his life; he can be pack alpha and continue phasing, whereas he'd have to stop with a human woman because of the aging issue. Of course Nessie has the power to hurt Jacob, but again that's true of normal relationships; it just has a magical aspect here. And the tale of Sam and Emily indicates that imprinters and imprintees can have arguments

[skybluerae]

2. I'd collect Kate and Garrett b/c they were entertaining and I could 'ship them. Emmett, Stefan, and Vladimir for protection and eye candy. Carlisle in case we needed medical attention. Jasper in case anyone got anxiety attacks and b/c people like to be around Jaz

[hana_xoxo]

They kissed as if the world was going to end, said mother hated your father for a second and a part of her always did till she was all vampy *which totally rewired her brain* and didn't want her dad said mother also wrapped her LEGS around JACOB's WAIST *yeah IMPLICATIONS HELLOOOOOO*, was spending every day, and your said husband was also deeply unconditionally in love with your mother and would do ANYTHING for her, had sexual fantasies yeah CRRRREEEPPPPY. And the whole dad/brother INCEST! *shudders*

[kerame]

5. The single most disgusting aspect of imprinting on Nessie, is that Jacob will be raising her. First as a father, then a brother figure.

So what signals the cross over into lover territory? "Oh, Nessie, I see you're ready for a training bra, time to teach you about second base!"

[justbee02]

LOL
that is an excellent point...their relationship is soooo wrong

[hana_xoxo]

LOLZ but EWWW!