Water is your ally

[snowgrouse]

It's a shame Darrow's new B7 novel about post-Gauda Prime Avon is only coming out in May and not before Redemption. Because... well, those of you familiar with A Terrible Novel and Man of Iron, can you imagine what a beauty that thing will be? Can... can you imagine? I'm actually thinking of buying it (no, really) just so I could sit back and read

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[g_shadowslayer]

Oh LORD. I'd managed to forget about that THING'S existence, and you've reminded me of it now. D8

And now you're saying he's done it again... Okay, we still have a chance that the world will end on Dec. 21, right?

[snowgrouse]

I KNOW. I... just... maybe there will be some sort of advance copy out and that'll actually be the thing that will cause the end of the world? I mean, it'll be so bad the world will just give up, fold in on itself and implode?

[ushas42]

I haven't yet put myself through reading A Terrible Aspect, but I remember reading the plot synopsis and realizing that it was eerily close to that shitty Wolverine movie (backstabbing love interests and evil half brothers and so on). Since Hugh Jackman was involved in the production of that movie, I wonder if it's just something about characters being written by their actors and being turned into generic badasses.

[snowgrouse]

Yeah. It seems like a lot of the time, you shouldn't let actors write episodes/novels/whatnot exactly because of those reasons. They really should educate people on the concept of the Mary Sue/Marty Stu in drama school. And wherever scriptwriters do their studying. I've got a friend who's a screenwriter and I've tried to give her links to TvTropes and I've tried to explain all this stuff I've learned from fanfic and she's just mostly "bzuh?" and so normal and so busy with having a life that she never really checks that stuff out. So every time she reels me in for script editor duty, I have to start explaining tropes to her. Even if visiting the website would probably be much easier

[ushas42]

Glad I'm not alone. Anything in that genre of comedy that relies on frustration or embarrassment (and that the Brits seem very fond of) makes me want to tear off my skin.

Thanks! I feel bad that I always seem to be absorbed in other stuff when I'm online, because I do like talking, but I hate starting up a conversation if I don't have a nice chunk of time to dedicate to it. I'll try and catch you some time this week.

[snowgrouse]

I have a really bad embarrassment squick and absolutely cannot endure The Office, even though people have been raving about it for a decade. *shudder* It's excruciatingly painful to watch anyone be embarrassed or in any kinds of awful social situations--it just brings back so many traumas (hell, I can't even stand practical jokes or April Fool's, because all of that is so terrifying). So I totally get what you mean.

And it's ok. I'm absorbed in other stuff all the time anyway and I totally understand--I feel the same way about needing to have a proper chunk of time to set aside for conversation and all that. And then one has to be in the right sort of mood and everything. It's so weird that whenever I'm like "gaaah, I need chatting and human contact with people who aren't nutters or too normal" nobody is online, and when everyone is online I'm either in withdrawal/fic/graphics mode. 'tis very silly. But I'll deffo catch you later some time.

[acciochocolate]

I had to literally copy-edit the first "novel" with the trusty red pen of doom. To add insult to injury, it became rather clear that PD's idea of Kerr Avon had nothing to do with what the fandom of the day thought about the character.

I never bought/read the second book.

Might read the bio of PD himself, maybe.

But a post-Gauda Prime? Oh, dearie me, no. Someone once guessed that at least half of the B7 fic out there was PGP. I'm so sure that PD can't come anywhere near Susan Matthews' angsty trilogy, flawed but in its own way brilliant.

[snowgrouse]

It's kind of clear PD lives in his own strange world and his idea of Avon has nothing to do with how the fans view him. I mean, I can think of a couple of crazy Avon fangirls who liked the novel, but that's it. He's kind of... well, let's just say he beats even Shatner in the whole believing his own legend kind of stuff

[acciochocolate]

Yr 1st paragraph: this is what I was afraid of. Heck, even Shatner has mellowed somewhat. But let's add to the trilogy: Tom Baker. The Prof watched an interview with TB sometime ago that he advised me, a 4th Doctor fan, not to watch. And the Prof is not at all into censorship, but he found the interview depressing in lieu of the egomania and the 'tude of TB thinking not only he was the best Doctor ever, but perhaps no one else should have ever bothered afterward. He told me that it was worse than that even, and that TB was bitter abt some stuff, and like Shatner, didn't understand why other actors hated having their lines stomped on or stolen. I had to stop him at that.

Regards yr 2nd paragraph: amen to all that, sister! I haven't read any of the modern B7 fic, and now it sounds like it's best I dive back into my box of 'zines, and see what else I need to get copies of, if at all possible.

I never met PD back in the day of the B7 cons here in the US, but I loved all the other actors that I met, esp. Ms. Pearce.

[snowgrouse]

Huh, that's not my impression of Tom at all. He's mellowed a lot these days himself, and mostly I find myself tearing up at how cuddly he is. (ETA: Also, a lot of the time he says all kinds of stuff like that, with a poker face, and doesn't mean it. He does have an odd sense of humour like that before you get used to it. So he might sound really weird and/or full of himself and then later break into a grin when he realises he's managed to fool you. Especially Americans seem to have problems interpreting humour like that, so there may be a cultural gap there--Finnish humour is often insanely dedpan even when it gets really evil, so I'm kind of used to that kind of stuff

[gordon_r_d]

And thrusting, there should be thrusting.

That was my first thought, my second was if there'll be an audiobook version rwad by the author as that could be even funnier.

[snowgrouse]

He's recorded one, apparently. I am already wiping tears in anticipation. *sob*