"What Imus did was bad" AND "but why do rappers talk about women like that?"

Apr 18, 2007 23:53

Why did the wild-haired, deeply-in-need-of-moisturizer, dried up, white, self-declared feminist activist ask me why the rappers say things as bad as Imus did and nobody complains? Not that she was saying that Imus was okay. "ANYthing said about ANY women that's NEGATIVE is NOT OKAY ( Read more... )

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yeloson April 18 2007, 16:00:19 UTC
1. Raise a group of people under a fierce racist, sexist heirarchy and then show them the only way they can get a crumb of power is to oppress each other.

2. For 400 years.

3. Gee? I wonder if some of that might get internalized into self hate?

Good job Ms "feminist"...

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skywardprodigal April 18 2007, 16:42:24 UTC
ACTIVIST, 'son. She stressed that she was an Activist.

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yeloson April 18 2007, 16:59:26 UTC
Oh my bad. Good job for an activist!

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starfishncoffee April 18 2007, 16:00:48 UTC
Wait. She just started asking you about this randomly at the post office??!!!
Talk about being put in the position of having to speak for an entire group.
And talk about her privilege.

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skywardprodigal April 18 2007, 16:40:42 UTC
Well, duh. Our hivemind gave me access to that information. Never mind that I'm Caribbean. Bleah.

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starfishncoffee April 18 2007, 16:57:29 UTC
UGH!! Those kinds of people make me bonkers.
My former boss was like that. She would come in and tell us how she would see random "young black women" on the bus and just start asking them questions about their lives and then try to recruit them for the program. She knew NOTHING about these people but was so very maternalistic in her second-wave white feminist activist-ness that of course she had the right to do that. Also she thought she was an honorary Black person because she lived in a mixed (ie. gentrified) neighborhood and loved soul music. She was one of the biggest WASPS I've even met in my life and I've known my share of WASPS.

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skywardprodigal April 18 2007, 17:15:04 UTC
Yeah. See, I know, that when I start a sentence with, "Why do men/white girls/Cubans/Koreans/Jamaicans/Bahamians..." and I'm addressing a man/white girl/Cuban/Korean/Jamaican/Bahamian I just met? I am engaging in fuckery. That's why I don't do it no mo'.

I've declared a moratorium on fuckery. Now, to stop with paying attention to it! Except when I'm stuck on stupid. (The other person's, which soon enough becomes mine. :/)

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dragovianknight April 18 2007, 16:12:08 UTC
"ANYthing said about ANY women that's NEGATIVE is NOT OKAY."

Well, damn, that means I can't say what I think about Ms. Crazyass Feminist.

"Because white kids keep buying it."

And then she brought it back to rappers.

Well, the white kids couldn't be led astray buy it if the rappers would just be more responsible!

::head in hands::

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skywardprodigal April 18 2007, 16:43:15 UTC
Blackfolk: corrupting the morals of the decent and upstanding since 1599.

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dragovianknight April 18 2007, 16:52:27 UTC
That should be an icon.

Also, don't forget the part about harshing the squee of innocent white fans who just want to exoticize Ronon like the noble savage he is. ::eyeroll::

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skywardprodigal April 18 2007, 17:08:01 UTC
Go for it.

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skywardprodigal April 18 2007, 16:41:53 UTC
Yeah. I was like, "Why are you talking to me? Go check those white boys rolling in Lexus' singing-along about slapping hos and bitches. Wait, white boys NEVER disrespect women. A girlchild is as safe in a frat house as she is in a church!

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yeloson April 18 2007, 17:00:31 UTC
You should have asked what it is about old white politicians that makes them bomb people and what role she felt she had in producing that culture.

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skywardprodigal April 18 2007, 17:04:54 UTC
Yeah. I love your brain. ZING.

I really wasn't trying to get into it with her. I maybe had a window of opportunity to get a message out-- and she wasn't hearing it. Maybe the postal clerk (who is only ever decent, kind and polite with me, as are the other two who were behind the counter that way) heard me.

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skywardprodigal April 18 2007, 17:10:30 UTC
The world. It makes a ton of sense, yo.

*nods* Especially if you buy into the Just World Fallacy, except, that sense doesn't hold water. What it does is minimize cognitive dissonance like whoah.

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