The lonelinessmonkeypuddingJuly 7 2009, 16:16:50 UTC
For me anyway, I think, stems from having grown up in a religious environment (Catholic) and as I've grown older had that old school personal God experience washed away by study of religion and mythology. The baby jesus thrown out with the bath water.
That can leave a hole that needs and wants to be filled. Options are many. You can dive into that emptiness and face it. You can fill it with something else. It can be tough either way.
The only thing that draws me back to religion now is the notion that I don't take the events as historical fact but as myths that are there to provide teaching tools for us in how to relate to the general world around us and the specific inner world spinning inside us.
We are here to make a go of it in THIS world, not any other. In that sense, you are fulfilling what must be considered to be the default purpose of any entity which incarnates here. At the same time cutting yourself off from that "underground" support which animates your life and everything else. So while you feel the satisfaction of going it alone, you also feel bereft of your generative matrix.
I think all intelligent people eventually realize the sham of organized religion. But they often then fail to find a replacement, and instead flail materialistically. Energetically searching for something to fill the void. I see it all the time. There's a kind of crazy forward motion in these people, a total phobia of stillness. I don't believe these people are fully alive. But I also believe time and dimension are infinite, so there's plenty of both in which to attain true sentience. :-)
Hey right on. That sort of sums me up to a tee actually. I sort of freak out when I've got nothing to do AND I have a large collection of knick knacks and comics as a buffer against whatever holes I perceive in my life. I'm learning, though. Peace has always sort of freaked me out.
It's worthwhile. There are things beyond the margin of "boredom" which are important to a growing soul. Ease yourself into it with mindless, wordless activities...like working alone on an assembly line or walking in a desolate land or listening to classical music.
JonnyVancouver
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July 7 2009, 19:18:02 UTC
Once again sir you have hit the nail on the head and expressed exactly what I feel and cannot put into words. Please write a book soon so I can brag that I know you and have a signed copy stating "I'm gonna fuckin' kill your whole family. Yours,Duncan."
I am super-incredibly tired, so I'll keep it brief.
For most of my life, I've been a bored atheist, and only recently got the "God bug", such as it is, by way of meditation and hallucinogens, both separately and together.
Have you tried one or both of those (between the two, I think the former is more important than the latter)?
I've tried hallucinogens a looooooong time ago but I never thought to steer them towards a god frame of mind. I've meditated quite a bit but it's also been a long time since I've gone back to that place. I think I'll get back into it and see what happens. I think I'm at a place right now in my life where that would be very helpful. Thank you.
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That can leave a hole that needs and wants to be filled. Options are many. You can dive into that emptiness and face it. You can fill it with something else. It can be tough either way.
The only thing that draws me back to religion now is the notion that I don't take the events as historical fact but as myths that are there to provide teaching tools for us in how to relate to the general world around us and the specific inner world spinning inside us.
Good luck with your explorations.
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We are here to make a go of it in THIS world, not any other. In that sense, you are fulfilling what must be considered to be the default purpose of any entity which incarnates here. At the same time cutting yourself off from that "underground" support which animates your life and everything else. So while you feel the satisfaction of going it alone, you also feel bereft of your generative matrix.
I think all intelligent people eventually realize the sham of organized religion. But they often then fail to find a replacement, and instead flail materialistically. Energetically searching for something to fill the void. I see it all the time. There's a kind of crazy forward motion in these people, a total phobia of stillness. I don't believe these people are fully alive. But I also believe time and dimension are infinite, so there's plenty of both in which to attain true sentience. :-)
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For most of my life, I've been a bored atheist, and only recently got the "God bug", such as it is, by way of meditation and hallucinogens, both separately and together.
Have you tried one or both of those (between the two, I think the former is more important than the latter)?
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