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ConCrit for Sarutobi Hiruzen

[anonymous]

I've been waiting a few days to post this. It's come to my attention lately that Hiruzen is kind of running a muck.

He's a rather knowledgeable fellow who is privy to many of Konoha's secrets. So, it concerns me that he would go around telling anyone about Itachi's real alliances. Especially because saying so would undoubtedly cause people to question why and may inadvertently lead to spilling the secret about annihilating the Uchiha Clan.

Also, I think Hiruzen would understand that even in a situation such as the facility, it is not good to trust enemies from his home world. Especially slippery S-Class missing-nin.

His personality, I think, could use some work to. But, I also understand that this is a new muse. As long as you keep him as the perverted old-timer that he is, you should be fine. (Remember, it's canon that his perv exceeds even Jiraiya's.)

Kazuya Mishima

[anonymous]

I find it very unconvincing to take the man with such a wretched history and no apparent ability to create amorous bonds to be so… obsessed with looking for a replacement. I think that has been what has gotten to me the most of this interpretation since to anyone who has ever played a psychologically abused and emotionally unstable character would know that a serious bond like considering having an interest in someone with obsessive tendencies is a bit difficult to create with them. To show what I mean, I suppose a little bit of explaining is in order. Kazuya is an incredibly traumatized individual. He was thrown off a cliff by his own father at the age of five because his father thought he was weak. Weak, that’s a keyword when it comes to explaining the psychology of Kazuya in my opinion. Why? Because in the Video Game, Kazuya makes sure that every action he takes from then on is to prove he’s a stronger person than his father. His personal vendetta, and perhaps the reason why he’s so easily frustrated when it comes to

Kazuya Mishima [CONT.]

[anonymous]

Kazuya lost his wife and his son. A son in which through his own twisted way, he tried (in the players opinion) to protect. Yes, he fought him a few times but he fought him to extract the devil gene inside of his son. Why? So that he could be stronger, so that he could spare his son? Perhaps. But then again, once Kazuya extracted the gene, he fought his son and laughed about it like a maniac afterwards. So even if he did care for his son, I doubt that a bond was ever made since you don‘t beat your own son, especially if he loved him as much as this muse says he did. This can also go back to the fact his own father threw him off a cliff and he’s just messed up, but that’s all give-and-take. The point is, there are various ways to back up the fact that Kazuya does not, in any way, ever show his ability to make bonds or obsess himself over something as fickle as romantics

[anonymous]

I've held my tongue long enough, waiting to see if this cast would settle in, but it's been over a month and things have not changed. If anything, they've slipped further into OOC

[sanctamater]

Having read the crit, I understand the issue and will work on fixing it, but the problem itself lies in the fact that so far there has been little interaction between Dante and Eva in general, and that Vergil has made much more of an effort to actually interact with his mother. Most of Eva's attention in that regard is because she genuinely is hurt at his (completely in-character, in my opinion) rejection of her; it's her, trying to reach out and constantly being shut down. In Dante's case, there was an initial rejection, but then he embraced her wholly, pretty much-- so she doesn't NEED to chase him down and find out why it is he hates her, as it is in Vergil's case. You have to understand that from Eva's point of view, she came from a point where both boys pretty much adored their mother, into a world where one of them hated her. Of course she's going to wonder why, and try to make amends however she can. It's not a matter of favoritism, it's a matter of wanting to get to the root of things, and by extension, back to where her sons

One of many?

[theotokos]

Okay, so. Essay time.

In canon, Vergil and Lady only have... one point of interaction. Mission 13 after Dante's fight with Vergil, Lady interjects, solely on what Arkham tells Lady in mission 11. He tells her that he was a possessed by "a devil named Vergil". So relatively speaking, Lady attacks Vergil on a blatant lie, told to her by her father. She believes Vergil, for probably five minutes, that he did force her father into the whole thing -- killing her mother and raising the tower. Though as it's revealed as it's one giant lie, Lady doesn't square off with either twin, they team up against Arkham, with their weapons, after he betrays every last one of them.

Now, in honesty, it doesn't look like Vergil or Dante are truly revealed to be half-human, half-demon to Lady. She doesn't denote that they are and nor is it ever said they are around them. Thus, this proves a few things:

[theotokos]

One - Lady shoots Dante in the head after he dangles her over a roof, so this means she's willing to shoot someone, a human, when feel threatened. Because, let's face it, she did feel threatened. I doubt Lady would ever sink to Arkham's level and kill a human, unless, yes, her life depended on it. She might be filled with hatred and revenge, but she's also morally driven.

Two - since they were half-human, this would undoubtedly present some sort of dilemma. Unfortunately, she'd probably would be compelled enough to go after them, even if they were half. But really, it's the first option - she has no absolute way of knowing they are hybrids.

Now, continuing. After Dante's speech, Lady finally sees Dante's humanity, she also understands the concept that, yes, even some of demonic blood can be human, and humans can be as big as monsters as humans. The whole key of Lady finally surrendering to Dante is his family issue - that is the whole turning point between the two, they have common ground. So by that, she presents him with her

[anonymous]

There’s a lot of things that bother me from what has been going on for several weeks now and the fact nothing is getting fixed annoys me. It’s turning into a big AU and it’s losing it’s class. Because I’ve seen the Dante for months here, I can pretty much saw that their characterization is all right, but there’s been a few changes, mostly in his care-free attitude. Most of the way he reacts to his family members suprises me, he’s too passive

Cont.

[anonymous]

And Vergil, the apple of Lady’s eye apparently, ever since when did Vergil get a fouler mouth than Dante? The brother’s are complete opposites. In the video game, he was always so painfully polite. Of course, it’s understandable that perhaps Vergil around Dante get’s a little lose wind around Dante but even so, telling other people rude sexual comments or anything vulgar of the like is crossing the threshold. That’s Dante’s job. He’s the douche of the family. Vergil doesn’t meddle with humans because they’re just not important. He brought a tower in the middle of a city. He doesn’t care about human lives. He tried to kill his comrade. He’s so nice it burns and he’s so crazy it’s scary. His interactions with Dante are spectacular. They somehow always manage to make me laugh. They fight, they make up, Dante flails a little but, cusses a storm, and everything is better. You really have that down and perfect. However, his interactions with Lady just strike me as odd

Re: Cont.

[theotokos]

While I can't speak on behalf of my canon mates to an extent, it's really out of my hands if Dante isn't interacting much with Lady. I've already cited in game elements, but I'll be glad to rehash the stuff here.

Since Dante has been busying himself with other previous CR - which is understandable - Dante has skipped over when Lady tries address him, and he only addresses her, when, in fact, she seems to be more of the agitator. The fact remain is, no, Lady and Vergil are NOT plotting to release Temen-ni-Gru. In the log, Vergil suggests that they, all three of them, can use their blood to open a portal back home. TNG's seal is complied of other seals, other gates. The seven sins in canon, as well as, to name the few memorable guardians, Beowulf, Nevan, Leviathan, Greyon, Agni, and Ruda. Since TNG has been sealed, that means Vergil would have to work all the way around the seven sins, since Sparda has taken their names, according to canon

Re: Cont.

[theotokos]

And as you say, anon, Lady's strongest male influence in her life was Arkham, so her view of men is skewed? This is true, but you have to realize, this also implies Lady's age and her skewered view leaves her open to this again. Especially if she and Vergil share common goals and aspect. This is like pretty much implying she hates men. Sure, men are scorn for her time, to time, but she's aware that she's second-guess a lot, because of Dante. It's not out of the question for her to do this Vergil