Someone should start making Viking Fiction Memes

Jun 18, 2014 22:52

You find a piece of Viking fiction that looks quite good. It's got shieldmaidens. It's got magicians.

Then you discover that the magician are all male - not a völva, not a spækona, not a wife doing simple protection spells with a spindle. And the male magicians and seers aren't even a tiny bit effemminate or even just rumored to be gay. Also, no ( Read more... )

mitologia norrena, vichinghi, wtf, english

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sigyn_medea June 22 2014, 13:33:09 UTC
Being passionate about weird stuff is just what I do. XD And I'm also really happy about having met you, both because I finally get a chance to talk about these things and because I just enjoy talking with you. <3
Alas, you're right. We only learn a few things, and then we think that's all that there is to it because nobody ever bothers to tell us otherwise. It's kinda depressing, thinking about the kind of stuff we're missing out on everyday.
Still, one would think that people writing fiction about ancient societies should have the most fun researching on them and getting them right. But that's probably just me having too much faith in mankind again ... *sigh*
You know, Vikings started fascinating me in the first place because it seemed like there was just so little about them. I mean, it was like we had Greeks and Romans handed to us on a silver platter, and there was something about Egyptians too in our textbooks ... but what about them ( ... )

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geilie11 June 22 2014, 20:16:58 UTC
The enjoyment is totally mutual, my dear. ;)

"Still, one would think that people writing fiction about ancient societies should have the most fun researching on them and getting them right."
Yup, that's me. I often do lots & lots of research even when I'm writing about the present, to be honest. I spent days looking into famous flying aces, once, and one memorable time I studied a map of London for hours just to know if my character could actually walk from point A to point B in the amount of time I needed her to. Maybe I'm just mad. XD ( ... )

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sigyn_medea June 23 2014, 11:21:09 UTC
Wow! That bit about the map is really impressive to me - both because it's actually kinda awesome (realistic pace and timing for a character's action? The world need more of that stuff!) and because I'm the type of person who could lose herself in her own town and is pretty much crap at finding out the best routes to go anywhere. XD
I remember once I spent a lot of time researching the Winter War to write a Hetalia fanfiction for a prompt - which wasn't even actually about Finland. And I don't even like Hetalia that much anymore, to be honest. So yeah, it was more a giant excuse to dig deeper into the topic and look into the pretty unknown stuff without having to openly face my own weirdness. XD
Knowledge is knowledge even when it's pretty much useless, yeah. And who knows, we could always amaze people with utterly unknow trivias and details. XD

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geilie11 June 23 2014, 15:30:32 UTC
Yeah, well, I don't do it every time, 'cause I'd probably go mad pretty fast if I did, but I like to get it as realistic as I possibly can. Luckily, I'm pretty good at orientation. XD

OMG, see? That's why I think you're awesome! THE WINTER WAR? Nobody ever tries to actually remember the Winter War, let alone study it in detail! I love you. *_*

"So yeah, it was more a giant excuse to dig deeper into the topic and look into the pretty unknown stuff without having to openly face my own weirdness."
Yup, that's exactly it. I mean, I probably should spend a lot more time studying for my exams, instead of filling up brain space with all these things, but, well, we only live once! *pathetic excuses for my bad case of laziness*

And you know what? In my perfect little world I would make a man fall in love with me by reciting the names of all the kings and queens of Sweden (which no, I don't know - just to be clear), or some other oddity like that. It'd be the nerdiest love story ever, don't you think? XD

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sigyn_medea June 23 2014, 17:34:30 UTC
Yeah, I get it could get really tiring and even maddening really fast. XD

My fascination with the Winter War began, of course, with the "OMG FINLAND IS SO AWESOME IT EVEN DEFEATED SOVIET RUSSIA" meme. XD But really, I wanted to see what the big deal really was - oh, and also I'm obsessed with Finland. Have I ever mentioned that? (Okay, I most probably did, knowing me.)

But anyway, I decided to stick around when I got to the less known, less heroic part of the story. Actually, I know a few basic things about the war tactis (read: "Seriously, didn't the Russians bother checking the weather or the territory? Man, Finnish guerrilla suonds awesome!"), but I got hooked on minor stuff like the way the war was portrayed by foreign press and weird stuff like the drug abuse in the Finnish army. Oh, and the sometimes-true-sometimes-not anecdotes, let's not forget those!

In my perfect little world, my ideal man would romance me with either Greek lyrical poetry or skaldic poetry. <3 ( ... )

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geilie11 June 23 2014, 21:11:34 UTC
You've got a good obsession, there: Finland is awesome, period. Even if you chose to ignore everything else, it's got great music, it's got reindeer (REINDEER! *w*) and it's Santa's home. Pretty hard to beat, I'd say. u_u ( ... )

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sigyn_medea June 24 2014, 09:36:55 UTC
And all the lovely forests and lakes! And the Northern Lights! And the naked dudes getting drunk and hitting each other with birch banches while steaming themselves in the sauna! And the wife-carrying competition, also known as the throw-your-wife-over-your-shoulder-and-almost-drown-her-to-win-beer competition! And the gay bondage stamps!
... Okay, maybe I went a little overboard. XD
Yup, the Winter War is really interesting stuff. I feel like people usually just remember Simo Haya, but there's a lot more about it, really.
I think not knowing about the place you grew up in is pretty common - it's just so close to you that you never think there could be something interesting and special about it. Like, I never knew Garibaldi had been in my town until my school called a schoolar for a lecture about the Risorgimento in our area - and I live five minutes away from a Piazza Garibaldi, where there supposedly is some "Garibaldi was here" plate I've never even seen. XD ( ... )

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geilie11 June 24 2014, 11:37:01 UTC
The wife-carrying competition is one of those weird sports I'm absolutely, deeply, madly in love with. Almost like the Scottish caber toss (the tree-trunk-throwing thing, you know?), or the cheese-rolling-down-the-hill race. People think up the weirdest things, sometimes. XD ( ... )

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sigyn_medea June 24 2014, 13:17:18 UTC
No one beats the Finns when it comes to crazy sports. Wife carrying and mobile throwing are currently my favourites. XD If you're interested, here's something about them: http://telefinn.blogspot.it/2012/07/weird-finnish-sports.html... )

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geilie11 June 24 2014, 15:27:46 UTC
It's the first time I hear about mobile throwing (it's GREAT!) and I'm not sure I'd heard of snowmobile sailing before, but wife carrying, swamp football and log-rolling I knew of. Finns are so wonderfully mad. <3
I love Scots too much for my own good, but what can I say? They're ginger, rowdy and they wear skirts (and are very good knitters, I hear): how can I not love them? Top it up with all the trunk throwing and there you go, perfection! XD Cheeserolling is actually Welsh, if I remember correctly, but well - they're all Brits, I guess it runs in their possibly highly alcoholic blood. XD ( ... )

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sigyn_medea June 24 2014, 16:41:34 UTC
I think mobile throwing would be a great way to blow off some steam. XD And the Scots are amazing - and they totally rock those kilts, they're skirts and they're still the manliest pieces of clothing ever! <3
Also they have David Tennant and John Barrowman, which just adds to their glory. <3
Ah, I should have expected it was the Welsh! XD I mean, people going around telling each other stuff like "whyllwlylwlyw" and understanding it ... there's just something not quite right but seriously crazy awesome about them.
I'd be careful in labelling all of them Brits - I'd at least consider the English separatly, first. XD

I'm not surprised because you've never been there ... but I am because you remember that thing in Horace! ** He did write a poem about Fons Bandusiae, which some people claim actually was in Banzi - the only famous thing about it! XD ( ... )

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geilie11 June 24 2014, 20:55:02 UTC
Honestly? Right now I'd be very happy to throw my mobile (which is working only when it suits him, at present) and I'm pretty sure I'd make some record. XD Scots, don't make me start... There's Tennant and Barrowman, yes, and Ewan McGregor, James McAvoy, Gerard Butler and maaaany many others. Kilts rock. But the Welsh, Cheeserolling aside, have THIS, and that's so epic that I think the Oscar goes to them. XD ( ... )

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sigyn_medea June 25 2014, 09:00:39 UTC
That video is beautiful. <3 And the Welsh win everything because of that name and actually coming up with a pronunciation for it, naturally - I guess I always thought they just called it That Place or The Town That Shall Not Be Named or something. XD ( ... )

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geilie11 June 26 2014, 21:37:02 UTC
I think they just call it Llanfair, but I'm not so sure about that. I do know, however, that some of them manage to learn the correct pronunciation only listening to the song. I mean, it seems it's not just a foreigner problem. XD

Exactly, you got me. I love the sound of silence (random Simon & Garfunkel quote, here! XD) more than anything else, and snow softens everything and I've always found that beautiful.

OMG - actually, I'm going for OhMyLoki, from now on, so... OML! THOSE COMICS! I'm in love with Sweden. And Wales, also Wales. And - well, truth be told, I should say I'm now officially in love with Humon, too. *w*

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sigyn_medea June 27 2014, 09:02:02 UTC
You know, I actually tried reading the name after listening to the song ... but it just doesn't make sense! XD I think I get what I'm supposed to do with the "w" and the "ll", but everything is still so weird anyway! XD
But the Welsh win everything for coming up with overlong words not even the Welsh themselves can't pronunce. XD

Another thing we have in common. :) I love the way snow makes everything softer, quieter, clearer, and more orderly in a way - like the world slows down for a bit, and you can just relax.

Come to the Dark Side ... we've also got threesomes, femdom and lots of slash. ;) And you just wait until you read some comics with Finland ...

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geilie11 June 27 2014, 12:36:34 UTC
I sat down and learned it all when I first found out about the song - took me a while, too - but after a couple of hours I could remember only the first and the last bit. I tried again and again, but it just doesn't stick (predictably). XD

Oh no you don't. You won't bring me into another beautifully insane fandom. You cannot!
...or maybe just a teeny tiny bit?
*her resolve weakens by the minute*

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