Anon Concrit Meme Thoughts...

Jan 26, 2010 15:32

Please forgive the rambling nature of this post; I'm still trying to really tease out a coherent narrative from the nebulous thought/feelings I have. In all, this is a 'why I'm uncomfortable leaving anonymous crit' rather than a 'no one should leave anonymous crit.'

In which I ramble at length )

fandom high, the internet is for [x], karla, fandom

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shadowravyn January 26 2010, 23:08:37 UTC
I EVEN GOT A TROLL!!!

Except the adverb this really IS something I stress, so I'm half-wondering if my college creative writing teacher is stalking my RP LJs.

Here be my thread

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holy_whatever January 27 2010, 00:17:39 UTC
LOL I loved your troll. I was the grammar nerd who got on them for less/fewer, FWIW.

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lyricaldiscord January 26 2010, 20:58:30 UTC
Ahem.

1) I did not post anything in critmeme, because I figured half of it would be trolls and previous players with vendettas to badmouth the game, and I don't need that stress.

1.5) Actually, that's a lie. I'm one of the anons who schooled the troll on your post. I was just too lazy to log-in.

2) Now, as one of the slandered parties that would be allegedly bringing down wrath on someone's head...I LOLed.

See, Emma is also a bitch. But as a player? I AM NOT AN IDIOT. I know to clear things like that with other players, and I hate being modded into situations so much that I would never even dream of doing it to another person. Anon needs to give the other players in the situation credit, dang it. Most of us are Big Kids who do know how to play well with others.

Also? Some characters are always going to be more popular than others. In case people have forgotten, that was high school. There are always people who are more popular than others. There will always BE people who have a posse around them, because that ( ... )

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shadowravyn January 26 2010, 23:09:19 UTC
This one was you wasn't it.

I have no doubts.

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lyricaldiscord January 27 2010, 00:19:49 UTC
NOPE. THAT WAS NOT ME. BUT I WILL NOT TELL WHICH ONE WAS!

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skylar_inari January 26 2010, 21:12:14 UTC
*sneaks in from work, yes*

Personally, I really love the anon concrit meme--it's a way to say things without being judged by the other person based on what they know of you, the anon, in a format that absolutely lets all crit be taken at face value, if that makes sense? I mean, I'll use myself as an example, I can be incredibly temperamental and I know that with my face on this will make some people discount what I say just because I can't always say it without my upset getting through ( ... )

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lyricaldiscord January 26 2010, 21:16:32 UTC
I still feel new and I've been there over two and a half years now, you know?

You and me both! I think you, me, and Ana were the only n00bs that term, right? And I still feel like I'm going to do something dumb at any moment...

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skylar_inari January 26 2010, 21:43:26 UTC
I think so? *squints* At least, I think we're the ones that stuck around?

Honestly it all blends in a bit, who joined when... but oh yes, it's still 'oh god, what stupid thing am I going to do that reveals the fact that I'm new???'. Which is a bit silly since, well, I'm not new anymore. XD;

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shadowravyn January 26 2010, 22:10:39 UTC
YOU MEAN THIS FEELING NEVER GOES AWAY?!?!

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septembergrrl January 26 2010, 21:13:15 UTC
Honestly? You have to take it for what it's worth. It's someone who was only comfortable saying it anonymously, and who hasn't spent enough time reading your threads to realize Karla and Rose are not BFFs. It sounds like someone is making excuses for being reluctant to ping a strong-willed character because it might not be flowers and sunshine. That is something that is, as you said, not really your problem.

I played in the meme a fair amount. It gave me the chance to mention things I'd never get the chance to say otherwise. And I won't apologize for anything I said. But I think things like that, and anonymous commentary in general, work best if you don't take them to heart.

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shadowravyn January 26 2010, 23:04:04 UTC
who hasn't spent enough time reading your threads to realize Karla and Rose are not BFFs.

I think that's another thing that's irking me. If anon is getting that bit wrong, how much else, y'know? And I'm not so much worried about taking things to heart, but more that I'm dismissing it too cavalierly? Does my rambling make sense?

A good point has been made elsewhere about why I might be more cavalier about non-anon posting. I'm all new and shiny, so I don't have the baggage that comes with it. If I respond to someone, there's (hopefully) no second-guessing my intentions.

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septembergrrl January 27 2010, 01:30:42 UTC
Does my rambling make sense?

I think so? I'm not sure how seriously to take mine, to be honest. I feel like I write with a good variety of people, but I'm trying to decide how much effort I should make to ping to even more people in reaction to what was said about me. Sometimes there's just no IC reason to approach someone, you know?

... aaaaaaaanyhow....

A good point has been made elsewhere about why I might be more cavalier about non-anon posting. I'm all new and shiny, so I don't have the baggage that comes with it.

Heh, true. You don't get the, "well, of course Nuance says that, she ships with Bob and Bob has hated me since the Twinkie incident in 2005" reaction. The flip of that is that you haven't had as much time to build up cred. ("Hmmm, I think Nuance is wrong about that, but she was right that time she agreed with Bob about that Twinkie incident..."). Like everything else, it's double-edged. For me, the things I said anon-ly were largely things I've wanted to say but don't have the balls to be flat-out rude and say ( ... )

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holy_whatever January 26 2010, 21:23:10 UTC
Omg hi, this is Sookie/Rory/Robin/etc's player, and I followed the link from your comment in the anonmeme (because of course I tacked the whole thing, I'm just that nosy.)

Here's the thing about anoncrit: sometimes, you need the damn context, because it doesn't make sense if it's a personal problem. I talked to one of my critics last night with both our faces on, something that had made me go "WTF I CERTAINLY HOPE I DON'T DO THAT!!!" made sense, because they were speaking from a particular experience where I did, in fact, do some stuff to cause them to think what they did, no matter how unintentionally ( ... )

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shadowravyn January 26 2010, 22:09:59 UTC
Yay friending!

First off, you were way smarter than I--I just obsessively refreshed the page. I've got to get better that remembering to tack things.

I really do wish that more people would include solid examples with their concrits. Though I feel a bit weird asking for it, because I don't want it to come out as "GIVE ME EVIDENCE OR YOU'RE WRONG." Writing my thesis prolly plays into it though, because I'm practically citing my page numbers right now. But, like you said, it's easier to understand a particular piece of concrit if they show you where it's coming from.

Though it is a little funny (if not entirely 'haha') that I got 'Karla's too popular' and didn't get 'you're too exclusive.' It suddenly seems a very fine line to walk.

Also, can I say I'm thrilled there's an Aravis? A Horse and His Boy is my favorite Narnia book.

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holy_whatever January 26 2010, 22:28:06 UTC
Omg I am so glad people aside from me actually like THaHB. It's so an ignored Narnia book. And man, I love to pick it apart because hello, Clive Staples, racist/misogynist much? But I digress.

I totally see what you mean, inasmuch as you can't really ASK for evidence, because then it can come across as "WELL MAYBE YOU'RE JUST WRONG." But when it's something like this where it really does seem to be based in the player's confusion/upset over approaching you, it'd be helpful to know if you did something in particular to make them feel that way, you know?

And yeah, the too exclusive/too popular thing is a really, really tough little position, particularly because everyone has different perspectives on what's enough/too much. But I also have to say that I agree with the sentiments above -- it's probably to your benefit that you don't have five years of, "WELL, IN 2006 YOU RAN A PLOT WITHOUT ME" to color things, either.

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rhi_silverflame January 26 2010, 23:22:16 UTC
Um, hi, AHahB is my favorite too. :D And it sure as hell ain't because of Cor.

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