My freshman-year roommate was a Southern Baptist who quickly became one of the vice presidents of the College Republicans.
We got along MARVELOUSLY, for some reason. We were both just... reasonable. Hell, if he ever runs for anything I'd probably vote for him. Well, unless it was for 'Assistant God' or something. That I'd have to go with my conscience on.
I tend to think of people who are repeating the views I was raised on (and parroted myself much of my life) as people who just haven't learned better yet. I'm sorry if that is offensive, but that's how I honestly feel.
I realize you can't help how you feel, but what would you think if somebody said that they feel sorry for you because of what you believe?
It has been my observation that the more experiences a person has (not just me), they tend to become less conservative. I have noticed, for instance, that the makeup of more liberal Christian churches tends to be a higher and higher percentage of people with higher educations (the academics). Maybe it is just the denominational standards, as the more conservative churches value things such as stay-at-home Moms, home schooling, etc. I see a correlation here. Maybe it isn't across the board, but I have personally witnessed it.
I didn't say I felt sorry for anyone. I just don't think they know better. ;)
As we've all said, this is your journal and you may post whatever you wish. I'd like to think you don't intend to be self-righteous and condescending, but that's how your words are coming across. To assume that I haven't given my beliefs the same careful consideration that you've given yours is incredibly insulting. It's also insulting to imply that many people are conservative Christians because they lack education.
To say that everyone would come to the same conclusions about life as you if they got out in the world a bit more is so much the opposite of a lot of what you've said that you believe. I'm not ignorant, I've visited quite a few other countries, I have educated myself. Admittedly, I'm not an intellectual, but nor am I a parrot.
Just for clarification, do you feel there's something wrong with stay-at-home moms and home schooling? I think those are just choices people make because they feel it's right for them.
I have some interesting opinions on stay-at-home moms and home schooling, but I think from your friends-only post in your LJ, that I won't push it. I don't want you to think I'm putting more people down.
"I value our friendship, so I can't go into all this!"I didn't go into all the issues at first because I wanted to play it cool, but I think you will agree I got right into the fray when it came down to it. I certainly do NOT feel that we have to share the same political views, as evidenced by the fact that I started doing a Topic of the Week on my own LJ. I like hearing what other people have to say and what they think. If I think you're wrong, I'll say something. That's freedom of speech, especially when it comes to political debate. My problem was that you seemed to be overly dramatic and making it personal with comments like, "Are you threatening me?" You know I'm not! I am just asking you to take people's feeling into account when you state your position because we were treading some potentially troublesome waters
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Re: Enlightenmentsh1mm3rJuly 16 2004, 15:12:16 UTC
Like I said, I think it is possible for two people to look at the same information and get two different conclusions. The comment about me respecting you less was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, and I realize that doesn't translate on e-mail. I say somewhat because that's what I mean. Because I do believe that people say what they really mean when they are "kidding." I mean, doesn't everyone think they have the right answer? Why else would people even care about the issues or state their opinion in a debate
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Re: Enlightenmenthellokitty138July 19 2004, 15:26:32 UTC
I'm late in replying here, so please excuse me. I just wonder why you want to be friends with people you disdain? I don't have disdain for you, but I wonder if I would want to be friends with someone who has disdain for me. Casually friendly, maybe--good friends, probably not.
Is your disdain because of what conservatives and Christians believe, preconceived notions that you're hanging onto, bad experiences with them or something else?
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We got along MARVELOUSLY, for some reason. We were both just... reasonable. Hell, if he ever runs for anything I'd probably vote for him. Well, unless it was for 'Assistant God' or something. That I'd have to go with my conscience on.
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I realize you can't help how you feel, but what would you think if somebody said that they feel sorry for you because of what you believe?
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I didn't say I felt sorry for anyone. I just don't think they know better. ;)
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To say that everyone would come to the same conclusions about life as you if they got out in the world a bit more is so much the opposite of a lot of what you've said that you believe. I'm not ignorant, I've visited quite a few other countries, I have educated myself. Admittedly, I'm not an intellectual, but nor am I a parrot.
Just for clarification, do you feel there's something wrong with stay-at-home moms and home schooling? I think those are just choices people make because they feel it's right for them.
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For the record, my Mom is a stay-at-home Mom.
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Is your disdain because of what conservatives and Christians believe, preconceived notions that you're hanging onto, bad experiences with them or something else?
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